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re: Ingram Mid-Season Highlights

Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:05 pm to
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i also found it interesting that guys like Tatum and Edwards and Booker are taking about the same amount or less of C&S threes as BI. Is it realistic to think he would be taking say 4-5 C&S 3's a game?
Yes, because Tatum and Edwards are #1 options on their teams. The reason why BI is taking around the same amount as them is because we treat BI as a #1, like them.

That's the problem.

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BI is not the type of player that is best utilized as a C&S threat. That's who Trey Murhey is. They aren't the same player, nor do they come close to providing the same offense to the team
Again, underscoring why BI simply does not fit what we should be doing to maximize this offense, leaning wayyyyy more into Zion and upping his usage more and more.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Yes, because Tatum and Edwards are #1 options on their teams. The reason why BI is taking around the same amount as them is because we treat BI as a #1, like them.




well i got news for you, until Zion becomes Giannis, or adds something other than barrelling to the goal for a highly contested layup that he falls down on every single time, BI is goign to continue to be the #1 option on this team.
And that's not me saying that's what i want, b/c I do'nt want BI to be the #1 option. But i also don't want to relegate him to essential what Trey Murhpey is. If you think we can just replace BI with Trey and get better, you're kidding yourself.


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Again, underscoring why BI simply does not fit what we should be doing to maximize this offense, leaning wayyyyy more into Zion and upping his usage more and more.



can you name a championship team that didn't have a high level guard who could create his own shot, and was simply led by a guy who takes 95% of his shots at the rim?
You have to have a guy who can create for himself and hit tough shots in the playoffs. BI can do that. Doesn't mean he has to be the #1 option to do that, but what he does is special and is needed to win a championship.

The closest example to what our team could be is what the Bucks were in '21 when they won it. I don't expect Zion to ever get near the defensive level of Giannis, but he can absolutely provide the same offense.
That team doesn't win shite without Khris Middleton, and a 3rd creator in Jrue.

Middleton took 5.4 threes a game in the regular season, about half and half C&S and Pull ups, and was over 40% on both.
Jrue took 4.8 threes at 39% in the regular season.

in the playoffs they both took more 3's, Middleton at 7.6 and Jrue at 6.2, adn they shot significantly worse at 34% and 30% respectively.
Middleton dropped 1% point from the regular season to the playoffs on his 2 pointers. Jrue dropped 10%.
Giannis stayed about the same on his 2 point %.


Middleton saw less open 3's, and took more 3's later in the shot clock in the playoffs.

You know what stayed steady for him, and why you have to have guys like Middleton and BI in the playoffs? His percentage on contested 2 pointers didn't change compared to the regular season, nor did it really change for his mid range game.
When teams are going to take the 3 away from you, and help when you go to the goal more b/c they are hustling more, then that mid range shot starts to become a rather effecient shot compared to the contested 3, or clog in the lane. And since they are already used to hitting that shot with a guy in their face in the regular season, it's not a shot that gets harder to make in the playoffs like every other shot you take in the playoffs.
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