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re: Ingram Mid-Season Highlights
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:23 pm to shel311
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:23 pm to shel311
BI and CJ aren't the same shooters.
CJ can shoot from anywhere from any catching position and be highly effecient. His release is pure from any situation.
BI needs time to get his 3 point shot off, and he typically likes to step into his 3. If you notice, BI's catch and shoot 3's usually are him catching the ball as he's coming to the ball so he can step into the 3. And it's so odd to me that he does this so often, yet he's not a good pull up 3 pointer.
stop with this nonsense. You over exagerrate this too much. as i said, he's a slower shooter, and sometimes is run off the line b/c he is an elite C&S 3 point shooter. He is not settling for 22' jumpers over wide open 3's from 24'
BI is shooting 1.1 3's a game with less than 7 seconds left on the shot clock. He hits those at somewhere around 25%. He also shoots about 25% when he's contested. Watch how often the play breaks down and we just basically give the ball to BI with 7 seconds or less and say "bail us out".
I just dont' think this is happening.
He's not passing up wide open 3's to wait and go one on one.
I can say that just as easy as you did, and both are rather meaningless b/c there's nothign to actually back it up with.
and just an FYI,
Here are some fun ISO stats for our team.
we are 3rd in the NBA in scoring frequency out of isolation at 48.9%. OKC and Miami are 1 and 2.
We are 3rd in the frequency we are fouled in iso situations, and we are 2nd in And 1's.
We are 2nd in FG% in ISO situations.
and we are only 11th in ISO frequency%
CJ can shoot from anywhere from any catching position and be highly effecient. His release is pure from any situation.
BI needs time to get his 3 point shot off, and he typically likes to step into his 3. If you notice, BI's catch and shoot 3's usually are him catching the ball as he's coming to the ball so he can step into the 3. And it's so odd to me that he does this so often, yet he's not a good pull up 3 pointer.
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But on the flip side, every single game there's at the very least, 1 example of a spot where you wish BI had taken a C&S 3 but instead he catches and either takes 1-2 steps in for a long 2
stop with this nonsense. You over exagerrate this too much. as i said, he's a slower shooter, and sometimes is run off the line b/c he is an elite C&S 3 point shooter. He is not settling for 22' jumpers over wide open 3's from 24'
BI is shooting 1.1 3's a game with less than 7 seconds left on the shot clock. He hits those at somewhere around 25%. He also shoots about 25% when he's contested. Watch how often the play breaks down and we just basically give the ball to BI with 7 seconds or less and say "bail us out".
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or just waits to iso the guy who was slowly closing out on him
I just dont' think this is happening.
He's not passing up wide open 3's to wait and go one on one.
I can say that just as easy as you did, and both are rather meaningless b/c there's nothign to actually back it up with.
and just an FYI,
Here are some fun ISO stats for our team.
we are 3rd in the NBA in scoring frequency out of isolation at 48.9%. OKC and Miami are 1 and 2.
We are 3rd in the frequency we are fouled in iso situations, and we are 2nd in And 1's.
We are 2nd in FG% in ISO situations.
and we are only 11th in ISO frequency%
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:25 pm to TeddyPadillac
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we are only 11th in ISO frequency%
Ingram: "only 11th? I've got work to do"
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:I hear you, and it's true. But all this does is continue to underscore how BI and his game just do not fit with what is best for this offense, Zion leading the way.
BI and CJ aren't the same shooters.
CJ can shoot from anywhere from any catching position and be highly effecient. His release is pure from any situation.
BI needs time to get his 3 point shot off, and he typically likes to step into his 3.
quote:You've said before that BI literally "never" passes up an open 3, takes 1-2 dribbles in and takes a contested 2. Or more simply put, I have no idea what Pels basketball you're watching that leads you to believe this thing that has happened a shite ton of times has never happened even once.
stop with this nonsense. You over exagerrate this too much.
quote:Except that...he is. He absolutely passes up on open 3s, I'm dumbfounded this would be debated by anyone.
as i said, he's a slower shooter, and sometimes is run off the line b/c he is an elite C&S 3 point shooter. He is not settling for 22' jumpers over wide open 3's from 24'
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