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re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28

Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:43 pm to
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Incorrect, you have no clue what can/will happen.

Turning salary or roster bonuses into signing bonuses leads to the results we are discussing, pushing the liabilities down the road

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And theres already an article showing how easily the Saints will be cap compliant

By pushing $80M+ onto future years with cap issues already. Kicking the can.

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Do you know that the salary cap for the 2023 season i.e. last year the cap was set at $224.8 million, representing a near-$20 million increase over 2022.

Yes and we can project, within a reasonable MOE, the expected increases. NFL revenue doesn't change that much without a pandemic.

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Stafford was HURT. They didnt rebuild you fricking moron.

They ate a lot of cap and got rid of one of their core guys to reload via the draft and rebuild both their roster and cap situation.

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Stafford is an aging QB, he is no Brees. He is NOT a mega QB.

Mega QB contract.

Is English not your first language? You are having a lot of trouble reading.

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Kupp’s contract is the definition of an albatross.

They could cut him, pre-June 1, and eat his entire cap hit and still have cap room without touching another contract. That isn't an "albatross"

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This is MAJOR can kicking.

They pushed future liabilities into years with cap space (like 2024).

It has already been established they fricked their 2023 cap to rebuild the cap and their roster. Now it's over, and they have cap space in 2024 (including the money pushed onto 2024).

The difference is they did it into a year with cap space. We have no years with potential cap space until like 2026 or 2027 (to be pushed later into the future after we kick can to get cap compliant this year). They have no dead cap this year, and even if they did, they have the cap space to absorb it.

The Bucs did the same thing.

They both have cap room in 2024. How is that comparable to our cap situation? How are either in the "same BOAT", as you put it?

You still haven't answered how being over $100M apart in cap space is the same, or how playoff appearances are the same as not making the playoffs.

We are waiting.
Posted by paulbeasy
Member since Feb 2023
598 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:25 pm to
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Turning salary or roster bonuses into signing bonuses leads to the results we are discussing, pushing the liabilities down the road


Common practice, Rams did it with Kupp in 2023.

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Yes and we can project, within a reasonable MOE, the expected increases. NFL revenue doesn't change that much without a pandemic.


Wrong again moron. Cap history is sporadic and could be over 20million increase or regress back to 10million or less.

No one know what the 2024 cap will be. Especially not you so shut the frick up.

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2023: $224,800,000 ($16,600,000 increase)
2022: $208,2000,000 ($25,700,000 increase)
2021: $182,500,000 ($15,700,000 decrease)
2020: $198,200,000 ($10,000,000 increase)
2019: $188,200,000 ($11,000,000 increase)
2018: $177,200,000 ($10,200,000 increase)
2017: $167,000,000 ($11,730,000 increase)
2016: $155,270,000 ($11,990,000 increase)
2015: $143,280,000 ($10,280,000 increase)
2014: $133,000,000 ($9,400,000 increase)
2013: $123,600,000 ($3,000,000 increase)
2012: $120,600,000 ($225,000 increase)
2011: $120,375,000
2010: Uncapped 2009: $123,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2008: $116,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2007: $109,000,000 ($7,000,000 increase)
2006: $102,000,000 ($16,500,000 increase)
2005: $85,500,000 ($4,918,000 increase)
2004: $80,582,000 ($5,575,000 increase)
2003: $75,007,000 ($3,906,000 increase)
2002: $71,101,000 ($3,696,000 increase)
2001: $67,405,000 ($5,233,000 increase)
2000: $62,172,000 ($4,884,000 increase)


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They could cut him, pre-June 1, and eat his entire cap hit and still have cap room without touching another contract. That isn't an "albatross"


Wrong again moron.

Kupp has a $29,780,000 cap hit for 2024 and cutting him in 2024 would result in $47,040,000 in dead money from his contract alone.

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POTENTIAL OUT: 2025, $17,260,000 DEAD CAP 2025


They can get out if his contract in 2025, but it would still be a $17million dollar dead cap hit.

Link attached click it pussy. These are actual facts. Not youre made up bullshite.

LINK .

Keep making shite up pussy.

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They both have cap room in 2024. How is that comparable to our cap situation? How are either in the "same BOAT", as you put it?


They literally had the same amount of dead cap this year 2023, as Saints did in 2022. Their bad contracts ARE/WILL coming to fruition now. Kupp’s contract, and Bucs seemingly will sign Baker to a mid tier QB deal like Carr (30 plus million) and it will cycle back around.

This is how the salary cap works numbnuts.

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You still haven't answered how being over $100M apart in cap space is the same, or how playoff appearances are the same as not making the playoffs.


Actually I have repeatedly.

(1) your clueless and clearly what the salary cap for teams will END UP being is going to be far different from the numbers we see right now. The fricking salary cap hasnt been set yet for 2024 and the offseason has not started. Youre literally just making shite up. You have NO clue where teams will end up or what signings etc could occur.

(2) the saints, bucs and rams all had similar records. The bucs got spanked by the saints and the saints were the better team at the end of the year. There is luck involved and the Bucs were lucky to have the tie breaker for the playoffs. The rams were lucky Carr got injured in the GBay game.

Saints and Bucs went 9-8 and Bucs luckily got a tiebreaker. Time to give up - might as well not even play in 2024 right pussy?

Now shut the frick up pussy! Go root for the Bucs/rams - you already have their nuts in your mouth.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 9:41 pm
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