Due to injuries more than age. He's potentially salvageable. Maye, Cam, and Mathieu are too old to salvage and much more expensive than their production merits.

Also, the Rams are below the cap now because they took their medicine.

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Rams cap management is in par with the Saints.

They kicked can, in the past.

We kicked can in around the same timeframe, starting in the past.

They won a title, in the past.

We did not win a title during this can-kicking era.

They are rebuilding and have fixed their cap. Have we fixed our cap situation?

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They have been one of the top 5 teams in dead cap for years.

In order to win a title. They did. Now they're rebuilding.

We failed to win a title and refuse to rebuild, while missing the playoffs.

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So you forgot that the Saints were rolling and lost to Tom Brady/Bucs that year?

And then they won the South and made the playoffs in 2021. We did neither.

And then they won the South and made the playoffs in 2022. We did neither.

Our window was over after 2020. Tampa's window ended after 2022. Tampa ate shite for a year to fix their cap, and still made the playoffs while we kept can kicking.

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Funny how you dont mention how we were 13-3 that season.

While I have said we should have considered realizing our window was closed in 2019, one more year was fine.

Everyone has been critical for the moves from 2022 onward, and especially in 2023, when it is completely clear our window shut years ago.

Why are you bringing up moves made so far in the past that aren't relevant? Everyone was fine with can kicking while we had a window. Same as LAR and TB. The difference is they realized when the window was closed and we have just made everything worse (while still being so mediocre we can't even make the playoffs).

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You think the reasons a team has a high dead cap are (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.

Or they have to cut a QB. Those are the vast majority of scenarios.

You also just have shitty teams and GMS.

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(1) you beleive that a large dead cap is meaningful - as a definition of whether a team will or wont be a good team.

I'm not shocked you're that wrong and can't state my clear position with any accuracy

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Now your spin is that a team with a high deadcap is better than the Saints high deadcap because (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.

That's always been the position.

It's fine to kick can if you are in a title window or eat dead cap because the window closed and you had to rebuild.

We refuse to rebuild while being mediocre. How does that make ANY sense?

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Posted by paulbeasy

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Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro

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And then they won the South and made the playoffs in 2021. We did neither. And then they won the South and made the playoffs in 2022. We did neither.

They had Tom Brady you dumbfrick.

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They won a title, in the past. We did not win a title during this can-kicking era.

No we didnt, we got fricking robbed pussy, what about that dont you get?

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In order to win a title. They did. Now they're rebuilding. We failed to win a title and refuse to rebuild, while missing the playoffs.

They “can kicked” and won a title. And we were doing the same thing and got fricking robbed out of our title chances. Again, what about that do you not get? fricking idiot. The Saints are wrong tho. Not the Rams. Rigghht.

Saints were in great position. And we got screwed. Your title or bust mentality is the retarded expectation.

Which is why folks understand that you have to give yourself a chance and anything can happen (ex Eli manning and his 9-7 teams that win SuperBowls).

And the rams are NOT “rebuilding” they are executing the same strategy as the Saints and often have a high dead cap. Kupp is a great example. He will likely be restructured. Just like Saints did with MT until they can get rid of him. Dumbfrick.

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Tampa ate shite for a year to fix their cap, and still made the playoffs while we kept can kicking.

No they didnt. They had Tom Brady and replaced him with Baker. And went 9-8 just like the Saints and we beat the dogshit out of them before the plaoffs.

Now bucs have to pay Baker or move on. They are going to pay him. Placing the Bucs in the EXACT same boat as the Saints. Banking on a mid tier QB and defense.

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Why are you bringing up moves made so far in the past that aren't relevant? Everyone was fine with can kicking while we had a window. Same as LAR and TB. The difference is they realized when the window was closed and we have just made everything worse (while still being so mediocre we can't even make the playoffs).

See above, again the Rams/Bucs are in the same position as the Saints and are usual suspects having high arse deadcap. You say that they made the playoffs and we didnt over and over pussy, stfu already.

Bucs went 9-8 and we beat their asses to cap the year. Rams went 10-7. These teams are in the same BOAT as the Saints.

Stafford is older and def a mid tier QB and the Rams have bad contracts overcome.

If Donald retires, he’s their RRamcyzk.

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Now your spin is that a team with a high deadcap is better than the Saints high deadcap because (a) they sold out for a championship or (b) theyre rebuilding.

This is your spin. Its trash.

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You also just have shitty teams and GMS.

Which you beleive is the Saints, despite years of success, 7th best record since 2020, a SuperBowl, and a bunch of other seasons where we were close. And got ROBBED.

Bucs/Rams are in the same boat as the saints. Currently. Youre just a fricking pussy fan who wants to bitch like the Karen you are. Shitty fan. And a pussy.

Which brings me back to my original point. The salary cap is ongoing and ever changing, as are contract values etc. As posted above the top 4 teams with the highest deadcaps were in the playoffs in 2023, the Bucs, Rams, Packers, and Eagles. All in the playoffs and all with a SIMILAR record as the Saints. 9-8/10-7, and Philly went 11-6 but in a bad way. Saints finished strong.

The Bucs and Packers (and Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings) in particular were not selling out for a championship. And theyre not necessarily rebuilding either.

There are several factors that play into the salary cap and why teams will/wont have a high dead cap, retiring players, etc. Teams manage it year to year and try to field the best team they can while winning games. The Saints have been doing that well for a LONGTIME now.

The metric for NFL success is not watching deadcap you fricking pussy. Which is why the following was posted:

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SFP makes a post about NFL power rankings. It only addresses teams’ salary cap. Seems on par.

Par for the course. Shut the frick up pussy. Youre a fricking clown.

By the way metric for success is winning. Saints have 7th most since 2000 pussy and a Super Bowl.

Sorry that you just a pussy Karen and that bothers you.

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