re: How close do you feel we are to a full societal collapse as a nation?

That may be true but 20 years ago you didn't hàve Republicàns seriously advocating the dissolution of NATO either. Both parties have extreme factions wielding disproportionate influence and it does the country a disservice. The poliboard types have been allowed to redefine the GOP into something else entirely and what used to be mainstream Republicanism is now called RINO.

And yes, wrong board for this topic but the board it should be on has been taken over by window lickers.