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He had 8 seasons with a passer rating above 100(and probably 3 or 4 more just shy of that mark) . For his career, I'd guess 4-5 dudes per year do that.

Number of seasons with a passer rating index of 120+ plus (it compares your passer rating in a given season with the league wide average passer rating for that season and for index purposes that average is always 100);

Peyton Manning: 9 out of 17 seasons as a starter.

Brady: 4 out of 21 seasons as a starter.

Rodgers: 8 out of 15 seasons as a starter.

Mahomes: 3 out of 6 seasons as a starter.

Brees: 8 out of 19 seasons as a starter.

Rivers: 5 out of 15 seasons as a starter.

Roethlisberger: 5 out of 17 seasons as a starter.

Marino: 4 out of 16 seasons as a starter.

Montana: 7 out of 13 seasons as a starter.

Young: 8 out of 9 seasons as a starter.

So it was 4 elite seasons, not 5. Kurt Warner had 3 in 7 seasons as a starter. So yeah Brady was largely a game manager carried by his defense save for less than 20% of career. He won a Super Bowl in only one of those 120+ seasons.

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Posted by supatigah

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Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:01 am to Dairy Sanders

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So yeah Brady was largely a game manager carried by his defense save for less than 20% of career.

NE lead the league in scoring 4 times under brady 07, 10, 12, 14

they were second in scoring 13, 17
they were third in scoring 04, 11, 15, 16,
they were fourth in scoring 18
they were fifth in scoring 06

TB was second in scoring in 20, 21
so in 21 seasons game manager Tom Brady relying on his defense lead an offense that was in the top 5 in scoring 14 times
that is 67% of his career in the top five in scoring

game manager Tom Brady played with 800+ yard rusher 12 times in 21 seasons

he played with a 1000 yard rusher 5 times

now I realize they used RB by committe, a lot of short passing, and the TEs in place of a running game

however, brady was under 7.0 yd/att only 5 times in 21 seasons
he lead the league in y/a twice and was over 8.0 four times

Manning had a HOF WR and a HOF RB most of his time in Indy

brady’s best RB was Clock Killin’ Corey Dillon or LeGarrette Blount and his best WR was two full seasons of Randy Moss at 30 and 32. Moss was 31 in 2008 when brady was out

in 2007 moss with Brady had 98 catches for 1493 yds, 23 TDs and a robust 15.2 y/c
in 2008 moss with Cassel had 69 catches for 1008, 11 TDs and 14.6y/c
in 2009 moss with Brady had 83 catches for 1264, 13 TDs and 15.2y/c

obviously Gronk at TE was a difference maker when brady was in the last 1/2 of his career.

Dallas Clark compares somewhat to Gronk in productvity
Gronk had Career
G 143
Rec 621
Yds 9286
Y/R 15.0
TD 92

Clark had Career
G 143
Rec. 505
Yds 5665
Y/R 11.2
TD 53

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Posted by shel311

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Member since Aug 2004

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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:22 am to Dairy Sanders

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Number of seasons with a passer rating index of 120+ plus (it compares your passer rating in a given season with the league wide average passer rating for that season and for index purposes that average is always 100);

Do you have a link that shows 120 is the standard, or did you cherry pick that number?

Percentage of seasons with a Rat+ of 110 or higher:

Manning 76.4%
Brady 76.1%

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So it was 4 elite seasons, not 5. Kurt Warner had 3 in 7 seasons as a starter. So yeah Brady was largely a game manager carried by his defense save for less than 20% of career. He won a Super Bowl in only one of those 120+ seasons.

Basically just as good as Manning using Rating+ of 110 or higher, so now what?

Also saying he was a game manager when his teams were top 3 in scoring a shite ton of times due more so to passing and not running is absurdly wrong.

This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 9:24 am

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