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re: Would you live in Seattle suburbs?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:23 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:23 am to Obtuse1
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The entire Pacific Northwest is about as generic as generic gets. Its beautiful but its just very plain.
Clearly, you are an indoor type of person, nothing wrong with that and the PNW probably isn't your jam because of it.
One of the major factors for us leaving Washington was the outdoor recreation. The regulation of EVERYTHING done outdoors is intolerable for a southerner. This is true of the entirety of the western US where getting a deer tag is as convoluted as getting a medical license. It is particularly galling in Washington. Hunting and fishing almost requires having a lawyer present to interpret regulations. The laundry list of things we take for granted in the south as far as outdoor activities is encyclopedic compared to the PNW. Even simply going for a hike comes with so many restrictions that most people in the south would simply stop making the effort. As an example access restrictions to public spaces and land force anyone interested into a tiny area within a VAST region of public space and land. Yes, there is some of the most beautiful scenery on the planet. Better make sure its the correct Tuesday in the correct month or year or you may be heavily fined for looking in its direction, let alone actually going to it.
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The Asian scene is great. Try some Filipino friend chicken at Chicken Supply if you want something similar to the South but very different. The French, Italian and American options aren't bad they just don't match that scene in a lot of big cities.
The Asian food in the PNW is good. Its not Atlanta good. Its not even Augusta Georgia good, but it is the best option generally speaking in the region. The French, Italian, Hispanic etc. options are sub par at best and notably not traditionally PNW fare to begin with like they would be part of traditional regional fare in other cities in the US.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:35 am to Big Scrub TX
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Cloudy /= "dreary" necessarily. There are many "cloudy" days that are warm and one is grateful to be out enjoying it the entire time.
Look, save your bullshite for someone who hasn’t spent any time around Seattle. It can be very beautiful at times. But most of the time is overcast, gray, and often at least misting if not out right raining. If you’ve been there for longer than a week you know this.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:37 am to dukke v
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Basically your whole post is based on politics. I just can’t figure out why people let politics run their lives….
Then you don’t want to live around leftists. Their whole world centers around politics.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:39 am to Darth_Vader
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Look, save your bullshite for someone who hasn’t spent any time around Seattle.
I live far north of SEA, same maritime influence, even more clouds and rain. For some, its ideal.
I'd rather have more sun, but it usually doesnt rain hard enough to spoil outdoor stuff.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:40 am to northshorebamaman
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now you’re just being dumb.
I'm not even sure what he's trying to say there. Hurricane Ridge is plain? The Columbia River Gorge is plain? The Cascades are plain?
Augusta Dawg must find Washington Road far more impressive than I do.
I have lived in and worked extensively in most of the western United States. I fully understand that the first time someone sees the Cascades they are breathtaking, which they absolutely are, its unquestionable. They are not, however, more breathtaking than the Rockies, The Sierras. The Columbia River Gorge is soul stirring. There are many similar places scattered across the western half of the United States. Yes, if one has not been elsewhere the area is uniquely beautiful. The coast line is awe inspiring, so is most of the panhandle and Mississippi gulf coast not to mention the Keys. The coast of Georgia and the Carolinas are equally impressive. The Appalachian Mountains are infinitely more impressive than any mountain range on the planet....there is more diversity in plant and animal life in Helen Georgia than there is in the entirety of the western half of the United States.
I have been fortunate to live and work around the planet and the United States and there is a lot of impressive shite to see and experience...but after a while one comes to realize that what they knew as normal, if they're fortunate enough to have been born and raised in the south, is impossible to match anywhere.
Washington Road is identical to most of Washington State, Oregon, Idaho, minus the scenery. That is the point. It may lack the scenery but it makes up for it with people who are friendly and who aren't surprised when someone speaks to them and a regional culture completely missing in the PNW. Couple this with the fact that Washington Road is a couple of hours in any direction from scenery just as impressive which one can actually enjoy without having a government official in tow to avoid getting a ticket and Washington Road is far more preferable.
I am telling anyone who will listen visiting the western US is a different can of worms than living in the western US. Most southerners would be so put off by the government interference into their every day life they would soon come to realize that while it is indeed beautiful it ain't no place to call home.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:47 am to MondayMorningMarch
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I’m pretty sure AugustaDawg hasn’t been within 2000 miles of Seattle. He’s throwing shite against the walls to see if anything will stick. Besides, we’re talking about the burbs and not downtown.
You'd be wrong my friend. I lived 90 minutes from Seattle for nearly 3 years and I have spent a lot of time in Seattle and Portland working over the last 40 years. I spend 4-6 weeks a year in Portland working. Seattle is perfectly fine, so is Portland. Both are very plain and generic. The scenery is fantastic but every day life is plain and generic. And if you want to do anything outdoors you better have an attorney on retainer. The government regulation is so intrusive that life is nearly unlivable. Everyone I know and have ever met who has spent any more time than a few months in a lifetime complain about the regulation of everyday activities. It is very taxing...in all that the term means.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:49 am to Darth_Vader
You saying that if you live near them they can take over your life???? Whoever falls for that is very week minded. But I’m not a politics guy… so I’d tell them to frick off if they tried.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:50 am to Darth_Vader
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Then you don’t want to live around leftists.
I do, but our leftists are still 10 years behind progressives, and lean liberal.
I like liberals, progressives (Seattle, Portland) are horrible, stupid people who put their nose in your business 247..
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:52 am to GatorPA84
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I live by the gorge about 45 mins east of Portland, love the outdoors and wouldn’t trade it for the world.
Got a lot of likeminded baws around that like to hunt and fish as well.
Oregon or Washington? Can you trailer your boat between the two without government interference? Can you cast net live bait and fish with it? Do you need a fishing license for both rods while fishing? Can you lift a salmon accidentally hooked out of season out the water to remove the hook so it can be released? Can you walk into Walmart and buy a deer tag? Seriously, I loved hunting and fishing in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Utah but after a while the restrictions are just unbearable when you have known relative freedom.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:54 am to AwgustaDawg
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The government regulation is so intrusive that life is nearly unlivable. Everyone I know and have ever met who has spent any more time than a few months in a lifetime complain about the regulation of everyday activities. It is very taxing...in all that the term means.
I straight up have never felt the government in WA was more intrusive than anywhere else. I lived there for several years, have lived in every region of the country, and I straight up think you are being hyperbolic to a nonsensical extent. Granted I didn’t try to get a hunting license, but I did buy guns, houses, cars, etc. (or just things that would have heavy regulation) and no part of that process felt more onerous than anywhere else.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 6:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'd rather have more sun, but it usually doesnt rain hard enough to spoil outdoor stuff.
True. It usually doesn’t rain all hard. What does though is mist and drizzle an awful lot. I mean, Seattle sit smack dab in the middle of the world’s largest temperate rain forest.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:00 am to Darth_Vader
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Seattle sit smack dab in the middle of the world’s largest temperate rain forest.
Goes all the way to Kodiak. The Tongass and Chugach forests.
You lived in the rainiest city in Alaska. You know.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:02 am to Big Scrub TX
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Oysters are good but $7-$10 EACH
what
I know, sounds outrageous, right? I can buy a bushel of Apalachicola or Chesapeake oysters this morning that were harvested yesterday for what 3 dozen would cost in an Oyster Bar in Richland Washington (3 hours east of Seattle). I promise you I have eaten MANY $80 a dozen oysters in the PNW. It is the market price in season in oyster bars. The difference in prices at markets is similar. They are very good oysters, vast difference in flavor depending on where they come from, but the harvesting restrictions coupled with the relative scarcity compared to east coast oysters make the price incredible high. They are tastier but that could be psychosomatic based on the price...
And by the way...DO NOT contemplate wading out to an oyster reef and plucking a few and eating them. The locals will have a CONNIPTION fit and the man will act as if you have sodomized his granny. No telling what kind of lynching would follow if anyone actually did it....
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:02 am to AwgustaDawg
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The Asian food in the PNW is good. Its not Atlanta good.
Insane. The Asian food, including Korean, Vietnamese, South Asian, Japanese, among others, was incredible.
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Even simply going for a hike comes with so many restrictions that most people in the south would simply stop making the effort.
Nonsense. It isn’t that difficult. I hiked as much as I wanted, and again, the permits were not that expensive or even difficult to obtain.
You are spouting some insane nonsense in this thread.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Goes all the way to Kodiak. The Tongass and Chugach forests.
You lived in the rainiest city in Alaska. You know.
Yep. And I spent a good deal of time in Seattle as well. It was about a 3 day ferry trip between there and Ketchikan. I remember it well.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:12 am to crazy4lsu
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I straight up have never felt the government in WA was more intrusive than anywhere else. I lived there for several years, have lived in every region of the country, and I straight up think you are being hyperbolic to a nonsensical extent. Granted I didn’t try to get a hunting license, but I did buy guns, houses, cars, etc. (or just things that would have heavy regulation) and no part of that process felt more onerous than anywhere else.
I am certain that, unless you were extremely fortunate, when you bought your houses the costs were more than you'd pay for a comparably priced home in the south, no? Most of those added costs are directly related to government regulations. The same is true of the tag on your automobiles. I understand that not trying to hunt in Washington would leave one unaware of the amount of government hurdles in place to hunt in Washington but suffice to say they are such that coming from Georgia to Washington and trying to hunt was almost as difficult as my hunting in Germany, Italy and the Czech Republic. I get it, if its home its home, but coming to the area accustomed to the relative freedom we enjoy in the south in our every day lives it is oppressive.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:13 am to crazy4lsu
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Nonsense. It isn’t that difficult. I hiked as much as I wanted, and again,quote:
the permits were not that expensive or even difficult to obtain.
You are spouting some insane nonsense in this thread.
Thats the point. A permit is needed to take a walk. A permit that costs something AND has to be obtained. To take a walk. I could not have made my point more succinctly.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:19 am to Motownsix
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This just screams I’m a #pushy
If that means I get to hang out in the woods, shoot stuff, grow my own food, and be left alone then so be it. I'll gladly be a #pushy for that.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:50 am to AwgustaDawg
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I am certain that, unless you were extremely fortunate, when you bought your houses the costs were more than you'd pay for a comparably priced home in the south, no?
I paid an amazing price for a home (3/2.5) in a prime location. Literally on the South Sound, extremely close to the water. I can’t think of a location in the south that would match it. At the moment, I would guess it has doubled in value. Similarly, my brother lives in Seattle, and his house (2/2) when it was bought, it was a steal given its location in the center of the city (Beacon Hill). My sister has bought several houses and their main home is in the burbs, with it being a 4000 sq ft home with five or six bedrooms and I think 4 full baths. They paid around 1.2 mil for it, and it is around 15-20 miles from the center of Seattle. I paid 300k, my brother paid near 400k and looking back, both feel like tremendous steals. Seattle and the surrounding areas had some tremendous value in terms of homes in the 2010s. It’s hard to separate how good the location is from the overall value of the home. And I just don’t think that given when I bought, that the added cost from government regulations had a noticeable effect on the price.
I don’t know Atlanta prices nor which areas would be good analogies for these anecdotal examples. I have bought homes since in two metropolitan areas on the East Coast, and it still feels like I’ve I got far more value in the PNW.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 7:52 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:54 am to Darth_Vader
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Yep. And I spent a good deal of time in Seattle as well. It was about a 3 day ferry trip between there and Ketchikan.
Yeah, we moved our port to Bellingham, so it no longer goes to SEA.
KTN is one of the most rainiest cities in the world.
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