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re: No prison time for woman convicted in cannabis-induced killing

Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:52 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26178 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:52 am to
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How does smoking weed cause a person to completely lose their mind and go on a murderous rampage?


There is a not quite novel but new area of study into marijuana psychosis as a defense in states that have laws conducive to the defense. I have no idea if this is junk science born of possible fear-mongering or not. I will say I wouldn't be surprised that there is not a very small portion of the population that reacts badly to some doses of d-9-THC or other psychoactive chemicals in pot. I also would not be surprised that this is just being seen now due to the levels of THC seen in some modern post-strains.

I would say that she stabbed herself in the neck and then required tasing and batoning in order to take her into custody. This still leaves the issue of meeting the involuntary standard CA requires. While it is known that people can become intoxicated on various drugs involuntarily without hearing the testimony first hand I am quite dubious but do accept being bullied into dangerous amounts of alcohol is a not unheard of situation.

I am curious about the jury makeup because without doing a mock trial or deep dive I would expect the defense would want mid to old Boomers through Silent Generation jurors who are much more likely to buy a reefer madness defense.

In the end, I think there is more to the story than what appears on the face but I am very cautious of applying the defense. It is similar to the early days of the "insanity defense". This defense has the added "benefit" of not being confined in a mental institution.

Posted by Train is comin
Deer Park
Member since Sep 2020
857 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:23 am to
This is wild. I certainly feel for the victims family. I mean, she admitted to voluntarily using initially. Then later says she might have felt pressured into doing more? Lol, what a crock of shite and well obviously never hear the victims side of the story.
She absolutely deserved serious jail time.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72422 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:03 am to
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In the end, I think there is more to the story than what appears on the face but I am very cautious of applying the defense. It is similar to the early days of the "insanity defense". This defense has the added "benefit" of not being confined in a mental institution.
Completely agree with this.

At the same time, MJ nowadays isn’t even remotely comparable to what we even had 20 years ago, and this is in a state where MJ is legal, likely leading to even more potent strains.

I can understand the situation where she was completely paranoid and freaked out, although stabbing someone 108 times is a bit much.

There is likely more to this.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 6:07 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15590 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:11 am to
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I am quite dubious but do accept being bullied into dangerous amounts of alcohol is a not unheard of situation.

This is not involuntary that would be if someone spiked your drink

Feeling peer pressure and succumbing is still a voluntary act
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