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re: NASA pushes back dates for Artemis II and Artemis III missions.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:43 pm to Scuttle But
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:43 pm to Scuttle But
Can you or someone explain the relationship between SLS, Orion, and Starship? Is it that SLS will launch Orion, but then Orion hitches a ride to the moon on starship?
Why not have one rocket for everything like we did 55 years ago?
And what is the gateway?
Why not have one rocket for everything like we did 55 years ago?
And what is the gateway?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:05 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Can you or someone explain the relationship between SLS, Orion, and Starship? Is it that SLS will launch Orion, but then Orion hitches a ride to the moon on starship?
SLS will launch Orion into lunar orbit around the moon.
Starship will launch to the moon and meet the Orion capsule. The crew will transfer to Starship for the lunar landing. The thing is Starship spends most of its fuel getting to orbit so it will need to be refueled in earth orbit by other Starship. As the other poster said, likely 15-20 refueling trips. The 3rd flight test of Starship should happen in a few weeks. It still hasn't made it to orbit. Once they get that part down, which I think they will accomplish on the next flight. They have to work on landing both the ship and the booster, refueling in orbit and then build different versions of the Starship. The Human Landing System which is the Starship that actually land on the moon. The fuel depot ship that will act as the gas station in space and then the tanker ships that will bring fuel to the depot ship.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
The SLS, or Space Launch System, is a super heavy lift launch vehicle built to launch the Orion spacecraft on a lunar trajectory, lift heavy payloads to low Earth orbit or on a lunar trajectory, or lift payloads to a heliocentric orbit. There are different designs, or blocks, designed for these different purposes.
The Orion spacecraft is a partially reusable spacecraft with a crew module and a service module intended for transporting a crew of four beyond earth orbit. It is designed to autonomously dock with other craft, including the Lunar Gateway.
The Lunar Gateway is a space station that will be placed in lunar orbit to act as a communication hub, science laboratory, and short-term habitation module for astronauts, as well as a holding area for rovers and other robots, which will be transferred to and from the lunar surface.
The SpaceX Starship is a super heavy launch vehicle under design that is intended to be a (eventually) fully reusable platform for reaching geosynchronous orbit, reaching the Moon, and (eventually) reaching Mars. A tanker variant of Starship is intended to be used for refilling other craft. Another variant of Starship, the Starship Human Landing System, is intended to be used as a lunar lander as part of the Artemis program.
The general long term plan: SLS (or Starship) launches Orion to the moon, Orion docks with Lunar Gateway, Starship HLS docks with Lunar Gateway, Starship HLS lands crew on moon, moon mission, Starship HLS launches crew from moon, Starship HLS docks with Lunar Gateway, Orion departs Lunar Gateway and returns crew to Earth. SLS or Starship launch other payloads to low earth orbit, geosynchronous orbit, or lunar trajectories, and Starship tanker variants refuel things at points along the way.
The Orion spacecraft is a partially reusable spacecraft with a crew module and a service module intended for transporting a crew of four beyond earth orbit. It is designed to autonomously dock with other craft, including the Lunar Gateway.
The Lunar Gateway is a space station that will be placed in lunar orbit to act as a communication hub, science laboratory, and short-term habitation module for astronauts, as well as a holding area for rovers and other robots, which will be transferred to and from the lunar surface.
The SpaceX Starship is a super heavy launch vehicle under design that is intended to be a (eventually) fully reusable platform for reaching geosynchronous orbit, reaching the Moon, and (eventually) reaching Mars. A tanker variant of Starship is intended to be used for refilling other craft. Another variant of Starship, the Starship Human Landing System, is intended to be used as a lunar lander as part of the Artemis program.
The general long term plan: SLS (or Starship) launches Orion to the moon, Orion docks with Lunar Gateway, Starship HLS docks with Lunar Gateway, Starship HLS lands crew on moon, moon mission, Starship HLS launches crew from moon, Starship HLS docks with Lunar Gateway, Orion departs Lunar Gateway and returns crew to Earth. SLS or Starship launch other payloads to low earth orbit, geosynchronous orbit, or lunar trajectories, and Starship tanker variants refuel things at points along the way.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 11:24 pm
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