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Someone who's depressed or avoidant or whatever is not an innocent victim. They're more like someone who injured himself due to a poor decision, or a Type II diabetic.

And what are you basing this on? Depression has an innumerable number of causes and manifests in different forms. There's a difference between someone experiencing a depressive episode and someone who deals with refractory depression, for example.

Personality disorders, avoidant in particular, are almost always the result of genetic predispositions and external trauma, often a combination of both. A person doesn't screw their way up into a personality disorder due to bad choices. Bad choices are a result of, not entirely because responsibility still plays a factor, the personality disorder in most cases.

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Posted by Sam Quint

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Posted on 1/3/24 at 2:46 pm to Tom288

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And what are you basing this on? Depression has an innumerable number of causes and manifests in different forms. There's a difference between someone experiencing a depressive episode and someone who deals with refractory depression, for example. Personality disorders, avoidant in particular, are almost always the result of genetic predispositions and external trauma, often a combination of both. A person doesn't screw their way up into a personality disorder due to bad choices. Bad choices are a result of, not entirely because responsibility still plays a factor, the personality disorder in most cases.

i think he's just saying that they are, at least partially, in control of their own actions. i think the "injured himself due to a poor decision" refers to problems incurred as a result of the disorder, not the existence of the disorder itself. he could have worded it better, but i think you're saying the same thing. maybe not, maybe i'm misunderstanding his post.

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