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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:08 pm to Genestealer55
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’m not very religious…but the whole “scientific” stuff is just as suspect.
Awesome.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:09 pm to J2thaROC
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Why? Because I care about what is true?
Do you go around telling women they’re overweight?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:10 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
apparently looking at some of these comments we need more of it. Eventually some will come to see the light the more you preach to them.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:17 am to Peruviantiger
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God needs no defense. We don’t have to prove anything, all of creation testifies of Him all by itself.
You’re wrong there, my friend.
Every advance in the human condition comes with testing theories, rejecting the ones that are proven wrong, and advancing confidently with that hasn’t been disproven.
Meanwhile, we’re all supposed to believe so fiercely in a text that was written two thousand years ago by men who had comparatively less knowledge about the world around them than todays middle schoolers…men for whom a wheelbarrow would have been a major technological advancement, men who mostly didn't even personally witness what they wrote about…that book cannot be questioned?
Every other aspect of life and the universe around us has to be proven while we smugly sit back and just without question accept as complete and accurate this one book?
The only way the Bible makes any sense at all is if we gloss over certain realities while reading it. Deuteronomy teaches you to kill me for what I’ve just written here. Are you going to act on that or accept the reality that this would just not be acceptable in 2024? If the latter, aren’t you sinning in that decision?
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 7:26 am
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:37 am to Recoveringcajun
Hundreds if not thousands of athletes have given their Maker full credit for their ability.I like and agree with that sentiment.
I was most impressed with how articulate and intelligent Nuss came across.
I was most impressed with how articulate and intelligent Nuss came across.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:32 am to fairweatherfans
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Hundreds if not thousands of athletes have given their Maker full credit for their ability.I like and agree with that sentiment. I was most impressed with how articulate and intelligent Nuss came across.
lol…well I guess that settles it then.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:36 am to PgRbtiger
A lot of people that don’t know how the internet works in this thread.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:39 am to bertderouen
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Sky fairy ain’t got shite to do with it.
Joe Sloan should be your god.
You sure told them!
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:09 am to J2thaROC
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Science uses only the evidence it currently has to make a statement about our reality. It never claims to be the true answer only the best answer we currently have based on the current evidence.
Covid? Climate change? Bird flu? Y2K? Lie upon lie upon lie, told to keep the grant dollars coming in, all so the press and government can scare people over and over again and steal their money.
I do not accept the argument that scientists are somehow more pure than everyone else because they only follow the facts and are not politically and financially motivated to produce narrative-supporting nonsense.
And as for the statement that science never claims to have the true answers, well yes it does, and it just happened with Covid and is happening again right now (and has been groomed for a generation) with climate change.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
I see your wife's hair is growing in nicely after her/his hormone therapy.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:21 am to tucoco
Seems like god has bigger problems than who the LSU starting quarterback is
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:27 am to J2thaROC
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Muslims
quote:Same God.
“felt god”
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:52 am to Lgrnwd
Dude is a warrior.
Never once pouted on sidelines like other former 2nd strings guys did bc lack of PT.
Always was involved and rooting his fellow teammates
Balled out in the bowl game
Has great attitude has waited his turn.
I expect big things from GNuss.
I’m all aboard the bus.
Never once pouted on sidelines like other former 2nd strings guys did bc lack of PT.
Always was involved and rooting his fellow teammates
Balled out in the bowl game
Has great attitude has waited his turn.
I expect big things from GNuss.
I’m all aboard the bus.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:16 am to CISO
Lame, childish response. Regurgitating something someone else said. Poor, sad cellar dweller.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:22 am to Recoveringcajun
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which means that there’s certainly a chance that you’re basing your one and only life on a myth
yes, it's called faith
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:29 am to Lgrnwd
I wish 90% of the fan base would like him because he played well, but I guess whatever it takes. I knew he’d win over all his doubters with thanking God an unnecessary amount of times.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:29 am to Recoveringcajun
I would disagree with you completely. I know that I am not wrong. I don’t make this statement lightly, or from an understanding based on opinion, or simply what I have been taught or studied. Rather, I make this statement from an experienced position. I was a liar, a thief, a drunk and a fornicator, but God, through Jesus Christ has saved me and changed me (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). I am adopted into the family of God (Romas 8:16, Ephesians 1:5). I am not who I used to be (2 Corinthians 5:17). This is not because I have a greater knowledge or opportunity, but rather this is open and available for anyone and everyone (Romans 10:13) through repentance and faith (Acts 20:21).
What is science? it is man studying and gaining knowledge of what is studied. Science tries to determine the what, how and why of things. However, this is wrong from its conception. Not the desire to know these things, but because it is based on fallen man’s ability. Which is why man is always proving and disproving theories. Therefore man’s assessments are always open to revision or change. Why, because man is fallen, and his reasoning is based on his fallen understanding.
Which leads me to your question of how can we believe the Bible. Allow me to say that the Bible has never been revised, why? Because to revise means to correct or improve something. The Bible tells us that God cannot lie(Hebrews 6:18) and the Bible is the written testimony of Christ (John1:1, 1.14 ). In fact The Bible states that Jesus Christ is THE Truth (John 14:6). The Bible is the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). The Bible also says that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forevermore (Hebrews13:8). So for one to say that the Bible has errors or decrepancies would be calling God a liar. To which he is not, because as shown earlier, it is impossible for him to do. However, satan is a liar and the father of it (John 8:44). So to conclude, I choose to believe God rather than man because God is true, and man is a liar (Romans 3:4)
So to answer your question, yes, we are to simply believe the Bible because it’s true.
What is science? it is man studying and gaining knowledge of what is studied. Science tries to determine the what, how and why of things. However, this is wrong from its conception. Not the desire to know these things, but because it is based on fallen man’s ability. Which is why man is always proving and disproving theories. Therefore man’s assessments are always open to revision or change. Why, because man is fallen, and his reasoning is based on his fallen understanding.
Which leads me to your question of how can we believe the Bible. Allow me to say that the Bible has never been revised, why? Because to revise means to correct or improve something. The Bible tells us that God cannot lie(Hebrews 6:18) and the Bible is the written testimony of Christ (John1:1, 1.14 ). In fact The Bible states that Jesus Christ is THE Truth (John 14:6). The Bible is the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). The Bible also says that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forevermore (Hebrews13:8). So for one to say that the Bible has errors or decrepancies would be calling God a liar. To which he is not, because as shown earlier, it is impossible for him to do. However, satan is a liar and the father of it (John 8:44). So to conclude, I choose to believe God rather than man because God is true, and man is a liar (Romans 3:4)
So to answer your question, yes, we are to simply believe the Bible because it’s true.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:48 am to Lgrnwd
So I’ve just browsed this steaming pile of shite of a thread and it didn’t last a single page before it turned into a lunatic ideological mud slinging contest. It was about how well Nuss came across. If his faith is part of why he is so grounded, you don’t have to shite on that. You have to be a kid to do that. That’s all I can say. It’s just an immediate tell when it comes to your intelligence and maturity and I’m not a religious person.
I dont know how Nuss is going to do but I really like how knowledgeably he is about the offense and I really like that he seems to be embraced by the team. He has a coaches demeanor. I like that he has chosen to stay at a place and compete. I like how supportive he was of JD during a heisman run.
It would be great to show that you can wait and learn and experience all of it when it’s your turn. Winning with Nuss would be great for LSU if it can happen organically
I dont know how Nuss is going to do but I really like how knowledgeably he is about the offense and I really like that he seems to be embraced by the team. He has a coaches demeanor. I like that he has chosen to stay at a place and compete. I like how supportive he was of JD during a heisman run.
It would be great to show that you can wait and learn and experience all of it when it’s your turn. Winning with Nuss would be great for LSU if it can happen organically
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:55 am to Peruviantiger
Here some of the logical fallacies ChatGPT found in your post:
Begging the question: This is a fallacy where the premise of an argument assumes the truth of the conclusion, without providing any evidence for it1. For example, the statement “I know that I am not wrong” begs the question of how the speaker knows that they are not wrong, and what criteria they use to determine the truth.
Appeal to authority: This is a fallacy where the speaker relies on the authority or reputation of a person or source, rather than on evidence or reason, to support their claim1. For example, the statement “The Bible tells us that God cannot lie” appeals to the authority of the Bible, without explaining why the Bible is a reliable source of information, or how it can be verified.
Appeal to emotion: This is a fallacy where the speaker tries to persuade the audience by appealing to their emotions, rather than to logic or facts1. For example, the statement “I was a liar, a thief, a drunk and a fornicator, but God, through Jesus Christ has saved me and changed me” appeals to the emotions of guilt, gratitude, and hope, rather than to any rational argument for the existence or intervention of God.
False dilemma: This is a fallacy where the speaker presents only two options, when in fact there are more possibilities, and implies that one of them must be true1. For example, the statement “I choose to believe God rather than man because God is true, and man is a liar” presents a false dilemma between believing God or man, and assumes that God and man are mutually exclusive and opposite sources of truth, without considering other alternatives or nuances.
Slippery slope: This is a fallacy where the speaker claims that a certain action or event will lead to a series of undesirable consequences, without providing any evidence or logical connection for the causal chain1. For example, the statement “If you go outside without a coat, you’ll catch a cold and infect the rest of the family. Then your sister will have to miss class and she’ll get a bad grade and fail her course” is a slippery slope fallacy, as it exaggerates the potential outcomes of going outside without a coat, and does not account for other factors that could influence the situation.
Begging the question: This is a fallacy where the premise of an argument assumes the truth of the conclusion, without providing any evidence for it1. For example, the statement “I know that I am not wrong” begs the question of how the speaker knows that they are not wrong, and what criteria they use to determine the truth.
Appeal to authority: This is a fallacy where the speaker relies on the authority or reputation of a person or source, rather than on evidence or reason, to support their claim1. For example, the statement “The Bible tells us that God cannot lie” appeals to the authority of the Bible, without explaining why the Bible is a reliable source of information, or how it can be verified.
Appeal to emotion: This is a fallacy where the speaker tries to persuade the audience by appealing to their emotions, rather than to logic or facts1. For example, the statement “I was a liar, a thief, a drunk and a fornicator, but God, through Jesus Christ has saved me and changed me” appeals to the emotions of guilt, gratitude, and hope, rather than to any rational argument for the existence or intervention of God.
False dilemma: This is a fallacy where the speaker presents only two options, when in fact there are more possibilities, and implies that one of them must be true1. For example, the statement “I choose to believe God rather than man because God is true, and man is a liar” presents a false dilemma between believing God or man, and assumes that God and man are mutually exclusive and opposite sources of truth, without considering other alternatives or nuances.
Slippery slope: This is a fallacy where the speaker claims that a certain action or event will lead to a series of undesirable consequences, without providing any evidence or logical connection for the causal chain1. For example, the statement “If you go outside without a coat, you’ll catch a cold and infect the rest of the family. Then your sister will have to miss class and she’ll get a bad grade and fail her course” is a slippery slope fallacy, as it exaggerates the potential outcomes of going outside without a coat, and does not account for other factors that could influence the situation.
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