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College Football Nerds expresses what most of us are thinking and know to be true...

Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:00 am
The playoff ruined college football. Plain and simple:

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While I appreciate Kirby's comments, there aren't any good solutions.

Paying players to play bowls or tying NIL to a full season's participation is only valuable to players who weren't opting out anyway.

1st day players aren't risking $$$ for $

There's a bigger issue.

For a decade, there has been a huge push from sports media and a large portion of CFB fans to devalue anything but the playoffs.

Journalists, who are largely pro-sports focused, push for massive change with zero concern for unintended consequences.

Many of us warned this would happen, and the same people who laughed said it wouldn't are now telling us that it's a feature, not a bug.

But 1st round draft picks existed before the playoffs. And they played in their "meaningless" bowl games.

90% of the time someone compares college football to the men's college basketball tournament, I can guarantee you they've got an NFL banner on their Twitter profile. Or MLS, or CBB.

And they don't watch a minute of the NIT. They don't start watching CBB until April.

We didn't used to need "fixes" for players sitting out. They saw bowls as an opportunity to raise their stock, and often did.

But I don't blame players now. We've created a sport that has turned them all into guns for hire and told them for 10 years nothing matters but the CFP

The regular season is next. Super conferences and the 12 team playoff is going to drastically diminish the drama and fun of the regular season.

What used to be a sport that was a 4-month long celebration of all teams, with an isolated single game to determine a winner is now a diminished 4-months in exchange for 11 interesting games at the end of the year.

But what's sad about it all is the same teams are going to win.

Those of us old enough to remember football in the 80s and 90s remember how much better it was to be excited for a season-long celebration of the sport, not just a hyper-focus on who won it all.

We've taken a regional sport whose teams were beloved, not for the names on the back, but for the name on the front. Generations of fans tied to a school, not just a team...

And turned it into a national game, rapidly being stripped of all character and nuance in the name of money and some disingenuous ideal that ignores all context.

We've marginalized the concept of the student-athlete. We've told them implicitly their education has no value, and the only value they offer society is if they make it to the NFL.

And if they don't? We discard them. On to the next million dollar deal for the next 18 year old kid.

We've used a false narrative of oppressed players and oppressed schools to enable the wealthiest programs to buy their way to the top.

And after the grifters have extracted everything they can for themselves out of the sport, they'll leave the real fans with nothing and tell them it was their own fault.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
57031 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:02 am to
Mandate a 1 year sit when you transfer would be a good start.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36435 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:05 am to
Bama caused all of this with their mulligan so it’s funny you started this thread

Bama backs into the playoffs the two years before changes take place is kinda funny
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75026 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:05 am to
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We've taken a regional sport whose teams were beloved, not for the names on the back, but for the name on the front. Generations of fans tied to a school, not just a team...

And turned it into a national game, rapidly being stripped of all character and nuance in the name of money and some disingenuous ideal that ignores all context.
100% this.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36435 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:06 am to
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Mandate a 1 year sit when you transfer would be a good start.


This, align dates better, and also allow coaches to give out multi year scholarships
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7152 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:06 am to
Well a 12 team playoff will fix it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:07 am to
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Bama caused all of this with their mulligan


No. The *reaction* to Alabama's mulligan caused this. An emotional decision was made in the heat of the moment and created this mess we have found ourselves in.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:08 am
Posted by johnadams1776
florida
Member since Jun 2021
479 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:09 am to
i entered the transfer portal & opted out of caring about college football when coaches marched in support of a marxist/grifter/terrorist group called blm!
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39772 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:10 am to
Nothing is going to fix this imo. My interest in FBS college football is waning severely from only a few years ago. I find myself being drawn to FCS football. A group of us guys here in town (Gamecock and Clemson fans) are planning trips next year to see a Presbyterian home game and a Wofford home game. And with ESPN+, I can watch almost every SoCon FCS game.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75026 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:11 am to
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Well a 12 team playoff will fix it.
No it won’t.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
57031 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:11 am to
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Well a 12 team playoff will fix it.


Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54624 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:12 am to
The irony of a Bama fan starting this is beyond hilarious. The fact that they won't be smart enough to see it makes it funnier.

This was all done to cater to the media darlings. When a media darling isn't good enough to meet the criteria, we must change everything.

We got rid of the BCS in 2003 because of a media darling. Every other change since then was due to a media darling not winning regular season games or their conference championship (or both).

Now the sport sucks and will only get worse.

Time for fans to get wise and just start making money on the predictability and quit spending money going to the games.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:15 am to
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This was all done to cater to the media darlings. When a media darling isn't good enough to meet the criteria, we must change everything.



Wasn't the playoff put in place because Oklahoma State (a non-media darling) got left out of the BCS National Championship Game in lieu of Alabama (a media darling)?

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We got rid of the BCS in 2003 because of a media darling.


Oh. Never mind. You’re just an intellectually dishonest moron attempting to rewrite history.

This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:23 am
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:23 am to
OP starts a generalized thread with a well thought out hypothesis.

Sky screamers want to trash Alabama in the replies.

That is what all the FSU pearl clutching has been about.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:27 am to
It was inevitable anyway it’s what the sports culture demanded for a long time. There’s a lot of nostalgia for the old MNC bowl system and while it had its defenders back then, it was mostly hated and attacked for not having a true champion.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:30 am to
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it was mostly hated and attacked for not having a true champion.


The opinion of mouth breathers and people of average intelligence I’m afraid.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:32 am to
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There’s a lot of nostalgia for the old MNC bowl system and while it had its defenders back then, it was mostly hated and attacked for not having a true champion.


100% this. The system is evolving in the direction we wanted 25-30 years ago. If they can correct, to some degree, the portal and postseason opt-outs it’ll be great for the sport. Not sure how you incentivize those things though.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
90963 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:37 am to
College Football Nerds does some fantastic in depth work. Been watching them since the LSU ‘19 season Y’all should check out their YouTube channel
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68938 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:38 am to
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Well a 12 team playoff will fix it.


I'd argue that the non playoff games will become even less meaningful almost like the NIT
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:42 am to
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Not sure how you incentivize those things though.


You don't. That's the problem.
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