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re: Haley declines to say slavery was cause of Civil War

Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:43 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:43 am to
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If not for slavery, there would have been no secession and war. Get serious, man.
But slavery was a thing. Evil? yes. Morally reprehensible? Yes. But it was nonetheless, a component of the United States national foundation and union.

If not for Northern attempts to sublimate Southern rights in accordance with the Constitution, there would have been no secession and war.

It is an important distinction, because there were numerous issues at hand. Southerners felt if a Constitutional guarantee could be vaporized, they could be decimated in other less certain issues like differential tariffs/taxation as well.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:02 am to
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If not for Northern attempts to sublimate Southern rights in accordance with the Constitution, there would have been no secession and war.


Who was it before the war that had the legal right to go into the others states to retrieve lost property with no due process?

The Fugitive Slave act was a huge over-reach on States Rights and led to a larger abolishiment movement. The South wanted "Their rights" to be slavery in the new territories. Without this they knew they would slowly lose the majorites in the Houses and the SCOTUS. They knew the writting was on the wall. They South made two fatal errors before the war ever began:

1. They over valued King Cotton. They embargoed their own damn revenue source. Hoping to force alliances by withholding cotton to the Euro powers backfired. Millions of pounds of cotton rotted in te fields.

2. They underestimated the willingness of the North to fight for the "****".

If the South had been smarter and more patient the outcome would have been much different. South Carolina screwed up biggly and started it all before the South could better prepare.

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