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re: Raffensperger refusing to testify about Georgia's voting machines

Posted on 12/27/23 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/27/23 at 1:32 pm to
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For this argument, that's fine. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but to discuss 2020, you have to do the 3 things I posted about.


You always want to avoid the actual holes in the system.

There’s no tracking of changes made by user.

When ballots are not automatically adjudicated, a user can go in and determine the voters intent, print out the new ballot with the “voters intent” and replace the original ballot with the new adjudicated ballot.

None of this is tracked by user.

There is some indication that ballots which did not adjudicate can be adjudicated by batch processes. Try to let that sink in. Thus the clamor for the original ballot images.

This would not be unacceptable security for a voting system for a high school election. Let alone a state-wide federal election.

That’s to say nothing of software updates and timing, fractional voting possibilities, lack of ongoing certification of machines and internet connectivity.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56773 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 2:57 pm to
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There’s no tracking of changes made by user.



Cardinal rule type of flaw

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When ballots are not automatically adjudicated, a user can go in and determine the voters intent, print out the new ballot with the “voters intent” and replace the original ballot with the new adjudicated ballot.


Even an attorney should be able to see the problem with that

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There is some indication that ballots which did not adjudicate can be adjudicated by batch processes. Try to let that sink in. Thus the clamor for the original ballot images.



This brings in mass manipulation possibilities. It would be instant disqualification of a security audit for approval to be used.

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This would not be unacceptable security for a voting system for a high school election. Let alone a state-wide federal election.



It violates almost every state law regarding the voting equipment.

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That’s to say nothing of software updates and timing, fractional voting possibilities, lack of ongoing certification of machines and internet connectivity.


You also didn't mention that the physical audit of ballots doesn't match the soft ballot count...and that some ballot images are missing...and some ballots are missing...and that of the few ballot image they've seen they found duplicate ballots.

SFP knows these things. He tries to focus on the "pillow man" because he thinks it allows him to ignore it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424106 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:21 pm to
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You always want to avoid the actual holes in the system.

Holes in the system are irrelevant for purposes of discussing 2020 if they weren't exploited.

What people are asking for is actual evidence of the alleged fraud from 2020. It's been 3 years and we're still waiting.

I will concede any point about potential security flaw you want, but it is still irrelevant to the discussion until you give evidence of how that security flaw was exploited, where, the effects, etc.
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