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re: What’s your solution for the homeless?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:19 am to Cheese Grits
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:19 am to Cheese Grits
quote:Deinstitutionization started in the 1960s.
Ronnie signed the laws to close the long term locked care facilitates that treated the population that needed it
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Deinstitutionalization as a policy for state hospitals began in the period of the civil rights movement when many groups were being incorporated into mainstream society. Three forces drove the movement of people with severe mental illness from hospitals into the community: the belief that mental hospitals were cruel and inhumane; the hope that new antipsychotic medications offered a cure; and the desire to save money [8]. It has not worked out as well as expected on any of the three fronts
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In Lake v. Cameron, a 1966 D.C. Court of Appeals case, the concept of “least restrictive setting” was introduced, requiring hospitals to discharge patients to an environment less restrictive than a hospital if at all possible [11]. In the 1975 case of O’Connor v. Donaldson, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that a person had to be a danger to him- or herself or to others for confinement to be constitutional
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:55 am to Jake88
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This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 12:04 pm to Jake88
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Deinstitutionization started in the 1960s.
Not disagreeing, it started with the famous case of some rich / celebrity type that made the headlines and forced the pendulum in the other direction.
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In Lake v. Cameron, a 1966 D.C. Court of Appeals case, the concept of “least restrictive setting” was introduced, requiring hospitals to discharge patients to an environment less restrictive than a hospital if at all possible
Not disagreeing, again, there is a certain percentage of the population that needs long term, locked care facilities. If you could make it outside, great, if not there was a place so you were not homeless or abused in the prison system.
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In the 1975 case of O’Connor v. Donaldson, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that a person had to be a danger to him- or herself or to others for confinement to be constitutional
3 basic rules
+ Danger to self
+ Danger to others
+ Incapacity to manage self / affairs
Had a family member high up on Ronnie's staff and about as old school Republican as you can get. In the past decade or two in private conversation he admits Ronnie's policy on long term locked care facilities was wrong and many current homeless / incarcerated were folks who would haver been in long term locked care facilities that existed before Ronnie's administration axed them. Short term saving but long term high cost. Classic "save a nickel now but cost yourself a dollar later" stuff.
FWIW, part of the issue is lack of factilities but the bigger part is judges wait till AFTER to rule on "harm to others". Kid that killed all those in SC lived about a block away from family member. For at least 6 years, his family, the cops, the school, and the community knew he was a threat to others but judge would not act till after all the dead bodies piled up.
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