re: My girlfriend gave me an ultimatum.

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I think any woman who falls for that will probably fulfill your low expectations of women as life partners.

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I hope she sees this bro!

Come back when you're ready for a serious discussion of a nuanced subject.


@Dadren:

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The risks can be mitigated. As others have said, get a prenup if you’re that worried. Also, divorce doesn’t just happen. It’s less like a car accident and more like heart disease. You can take steps to minimize the probability it ever happens.

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Prenups are a crapshoot as far as actually holding up in court is concerned. A lot of it depends on your individual judge which is not a good gamble for men to take IMO.

I would definitely grant you that there are sound preventive steps that reduce the risk of divorce, and that a lot of men don't follow them, which means that the atrocious divorce rate in the US isn't an inevitability. Personally I don't think there's much benefit to involving the state, so the risk measured against the benefit is still high. But I understand why others feel differently.

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Maybe to a degree but I doubt to a significant degree. I 100% agree that women almost always marry across and up the socioeconomic ladder and over the past few decades woman’s average pay has skyrocketed, but the man at the median still out-earns the woman at the median by a lot. There are still plenty of “average men” for the “average woman” to select.

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I'm not sure that the median male income even exceeds median female income anymore, at least among the unmarried 20-somethings looking to get married. If it does, I would strongly contest that it's by "a lot."

That said, your data spans several decades (I think - it's from 2016, but it incorporates all age ranges), so obviously what I'm talking about is a more recent phenomenon.

Let me post the counterfactual to you then - by what mechanism does getting married lead you to make so much more money? Certainly as a household you make more money going from 1 working person to 2 working people, but that's not what your data measured, it measured the individual man.