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re: Does Satanism exist without Christianity?

Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:48 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 9:48 am to
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along with the wife of Elyon and mother of Yahweh
Go read Psalm 78. Yahweh and Elyon are the same, singular God.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Go read Psalm 78. Yahweh and Elyon are the same, singular God.


Go read Deuteronomy 32:8-9. Go read Psalm 82 as a whole but particularly verse 6. Yahweh and Elyon are distinct, different gods.

If you are a retard, and you can’t grasp any history or context, you won’t even be able to see that you pointed out a contradiction, in the sense that the verses you and I mentioned do not agree and cannot be reconciled.

ETA1: they are not contradictions if you consider the sources are multiple authors with opposing views trying to one-up each other, and then some later compiler stupidly puts both versions into the holy book.

The Bible acknowledges many gods, and each nation was assigned a guardian god. If you were to look at the history of the scriptures, along with other context such as the Ugaritic Library and the Dead Sea Scrolls, you might no longer be blinded by stupidly. I actually thought about you at work today - a coworker who I had just met was telling me the dinosaur fossils were put in the ground by the devil to trick us into not believing in creation by God - sounded just like your level of cognitive dissonance.

Scriptures and religions evolve similarly to organisms. For example, in this verse, Yahweh is Ba’al.

2 Samuel 5:20
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And David came to Baal-perazim, and David defeated them there. And he said, “The LORD has broken through my enemies before me like a breaking flood.” Therefore the name of that place is called Baal-perazim.


And in this verse Yahweh is not Ba’al

1 Kings 22:53
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He served Baal and worshiped him and provoked the LORD, the God of Israel, to anger in every way that his father had done.


Still in other scriptures, the author describes how Yahweh became disassociated with the name Ba’al.

Hosea 2:16
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“And in that day, declares the LORD, you will call me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer will you call me ‘My Baal.’


We have the Ugaritic library mostly translated into English. We know that the Israelites were Canaanites using archaeology and genetics. They worshipped the same gods El Elyon, Baal, Asherah, etc. in Ugarit in 1200BCE, Baal was also called Yah. In the Bible especially the older scriptures, Yahweh has every attribute of Baal described in Ugaritic cuneiform. In Ugarit, Baal was said to ride on the clouds, hurl lightning bolts, thunder, and cause rain… all things Yahweh (also sometimes called Baal) in the Bible is said to do. In Ugarit, El Elyon was the Father of Baal, also sometimes called Yah. Just like in Deuteronomy 32:8-9. In Ugarit, Baal was the god if the Barley harvest, one of the most important things for their survival.

In Babylonian writings, Marduk kills Rahab, himself dying in the process. He is resurrected 3 days later by his father. After waking up, he splits him (giant water dragon) into two pieces, and uses one to make the earth and one to make the firmament. This is recorded in the Enuma Elish, which existed in ancient Israel in cuneiform before the Bible existed.

In Ugaritic writings, Baal kills Leviathan, himself dying in the process. He is resurrected 3 days later by his father El Elyon. After waking up, he splits him (giant water dragon) into two pieces, and uses one to make the earth and one to make the firmament. This is recorded in the Ugaritic library, which existed in ancient Israel in cuneiform before the Bible existed.

In the Bible, Yahweh is said to kill both Leviathan and Rahab. Yahweh splits the chaos into the firmament and the earth. Oh but Yahweh doesn’t die! And he isn’t resurrected 3 days later!

The dying part where Yahweh died in the part was edited out. They forgot to edit out this though- a clue to the earlier versions:

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The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock, and exalted be the God of my salvation—


Wonder why I commented about Baal being the god of the Barley harvest in Ugarit?

2 Samuel 21:9
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and he gave them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the mountain before the LORD, and the seven of them perished together. They were put to death in the first days of harvest, at the beginning of barley harvest.


David sacrifices the 7 sons of Saul as blood sacrifice to Yahweh for him to end the famine and have a good barley harvest. Seems like too much to be a coincidence.

To the pre-exilic Jews and Israelites, El Elyon, Baal/Yahweh, Asherah, Nehushtan, and all the gods of Egypt, Babylon, Persia, and Anatolia were distinct deities and formed the divine council. You’ll have to face the facts that the Bible says there are many gods and other ridiculous nonsense.

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5Let the heavens praise your wonders, O LORD, your faithfulness in the assembly of the holy ones! 6For who in the skies can be compared to the LORD? Who among the heavenly beings is like the LORD, 7a God greatly to be feared in the council of the holy ones, and awesome above all who are around him? 8O LORD God of hosts, who is mighty as you are, O LORD, with your faithfulness all around you? 9You rule the raging of the sea; when its waves rise, you still them. 10You crushed Rahab like a carcass; you scattered your enemies with your mighty arm. 11The heavens are yours; the earth also is yours; the world and all that is in it, you have founded them.



ETA2: do you know when Marduk, Baal/Yahweh, and Sol Invictus were born? Dec 25. The winter solstice. For 3 days, the sun is at the lowest point in the sky, before rising up a little on the 3rd day, and continuing to get higher in the sky each day until the summer solstice. Paul says Jesus is Yahweh, so it makes sense for Jesus to be born on Dec 25 too. Constantine didn’t have that big of a problem replacing Sol Invictus with Jesus, as Jesus was said to be the light of the world and his earliest followers were “children of light” (same as the pre Christian Essene sect at Qumran who buried their scrolls in clay jars near the Dead Sea).

This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 5:28 pm
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