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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize

Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:53 pm to
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People think all hospital systems are rolling in money
The discussion involves administrators who are running their system quality into the ground, not the systems themselves.

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Market forces do indeed drive healthcare expenses
False.
Communized reimbursement undercuts that.

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if by "healthcare expenses" you mean the expenses of a company who provides healthcare services, such as a hospital. Labor, supply and demand, etc., they all impact the cost of doing business for those companies.
If market forces were a driver, hospitals could not survive charging 200-250% for endoscopies identical to ones provided for the same patients in stand-alone OPT units. Hospitals could not survive similar overcharges for other OPT procedures.

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Specifically, those in less populated, more rural areas.
If market forces were at play, those facilities could bill IAW their costs. They cannot.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4447 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 4:05 pm to
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False.
Communized reimbursement undercuts that.


Explain how. Because you're wrong.

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If market forces were a driver, hospitals could not survive charging 200-250% for endoscopies identical to ones provided for the same patients in stand-alone OPT units. Hospitals could not survive similar overcharges for other OPT procedures.


The expense isn't what the hospital gets paid for the equipment. The expense is what it costs the hospital to buy it. I suspected you didn't actually read what I wrote and now I'm almost certain of it.

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If market forces were at play, those facilities could bill IAW their costs. They cannot.


I said market forces are at play on the expense side. Their costs, as you say.

If you're going to insist that market forces do not dictate what hospitals pay for eggs, toilet paper, sheets, scalpels, labor, paper, computers, etc., you're going to have to talk about that. All you keep talking about is what they charge, not their expenses.
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