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re: Southeastern Severe Weather Thread: 12/9-12/10

Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:50 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:50 am to
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However, the National Weather Service did issue a severe thunderstorm warning for the entire Birmingham metro and I believe they mentioned the possibility of a spin up tornado in that warning. Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t pay much attention to severe thunderstorm warnings.

Then a tornado warning should have been issued. Plenty of times a tornado is never confirmed in a tornado warning, just a radar indicated one.
Not sure who all would have done things differently since it occurred so late
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25978 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:54 am to
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Then a tornado warning should have been issued


people bitch to no end about "potential freeze warnings"
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
58229 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:49 am to
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Then a tornado warning should have been issued. Plenty of times a tornado is never confirmed in a tornado warning, just a radar indicated one.
Not sure who all would have done things differently since it occurred so late

That's why I always say to treat storms like that (a line with high winds and embedded rotations) like a tornado warning when it rolls through. The NWS, nor anyone else, is going to catch 100% of those type tornadoes. Even if they do, by the time the warning is issued and pushed to the public that type tornado will have already done its damage and gone.

I've seen confirmed tornadoes that had a duration of less time than it takes for the radar to update a new scan. If the couplet didn't form on radar at just the right time, the radar never saw it. It just is what it is.

Never trust those QLCS storms with high winds and embedded rotations. Of course, the biggest threat they pose to life is to people in vehicles or in mobile homes. If you're driving or live in a mobile home, treat those storms like you would a tornado warning. Otherwise, those brief spin-ups aren't generally killer tornadoes, and that's good because we will never catch them all.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
59286 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 12:10 am to
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Then a tornado warning should have been issued. Plenty of times a tornado is never confirmed in a tornado warning, just a radar indicated one. Not sure who all would have done things differently since it occurred so late


They've gone this route before, in fact NWS Memphis still goes this route and just Tornado warns entire lines, it leads to tornado warnings being ignored bc of all the false alarms

Coincidentally which is the same reason severe thunderstorm warnings are ignored by most people bc so, so many of them don't verify as severe

The solution is to reduce FAR of both types. All NWS offices should focus on it
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