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re: How much would you need to be paid to be an American public school teacher?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 3:25 pm to Thundercles
Posted on 12/6/23 at 3:25 pm to Thundercles
I took a pay cut after being a teacher and coach in MS public schools for 12 years to move into coaching at the NAIA level. The pay cut was minor and the time flexibility was more than worth the $10k/year.
What most people honestly just don't get is the lack of discipline teachers are allowed to enforce on students. I read on this board all the time about how easy it is and teachers bitch all the time. This isn't the pre-NCLB anymore where you saw schools enforce punishments, expulsions, and suspensions...now, teachers go through a laundry list of work on their end to initiate a process of discipline and the consequences are far less. It's not the workload in any other area...it is the weak punishment of students. But, since NCLB we correlate funding based on attendance and test scores. Therefore, schools do nothing but teach to a test and do everything possible to max them out. Public schools are test mills.
What most people honestly just don't get is the lack of discipline teachers are allowed to enforce on students. I read on this board all the time about how easy it is and teachers bitch all the time. This isn't the pre-NCLB anymore where you saw schools enforce punishments, expulsions, and suspensions...now, teachers go through a laundry list of work on their end to initiate a process of discipline and the consequences are far less. It's not the workload in any other area...it is the weak punishment of students. But, since NCLB we correlate funding based on attendance and test scores. Therefore, schools do nothing but teach to a test and do everything possible to max them out. Public schools are test mills.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 3:36 pm to rpg37
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rpg37
What you’re saying is correct, but I wouldn’t relate it as directly with NCLB as you do. It’s a combination of that and several other things, but the point that teachers have no power to effectively discipline students anymore is absolutely correct. I’ll say it again for about the 20th time here, but the current system is unsustainable. The unraveling has sped up quickly since COVID, and I don’t think it’s possible to stitch it back together at this point.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:43 am to rpg37
quote:oh shite what school/sport? I coached at Friends for a couple years.
I took a pay cut after being a teacher and coach in MS public schools for 12 years to move into coaching at the NAIA level. The pay cut was minor and the time flexibility was more than worth the $10k/year.
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