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re: So to all the posters who were on the "Trump committed fraud to get his loans" crowd
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:30 pm to Ex-Popcorn
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:30 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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In every example you have tried to present, there is a victim. That's implicit in the word "fraud"...meaning, you created a victim through deceptive means.
He thinks he can be a victim on someone else’s behalf, even though that someone else has stated they aren’t a victim.
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:43 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Can you point out where in Section 63(12) does it require the government to prove that financial losses were incurred or that someone must be declared “a victim”?
He thinks he can be a victim on someone else’s behalf, even though that someone else has stated they aren’t a victim.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:43 pm to thebigmuffaletta
That's what I don't understand. If the person who the judge is alleging was defrauded testified that they weren't in fact defrauded, then what exactly is the point of contention?
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