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re: Is timeliness no longer valued at all?

Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4526 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:52 pm to
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All of the people who go on about "if you are 5 minutes early you are 10 minutes late" or the various renditions have spent their lives responding to the demands of other people. Many of them got that information from the military where they were not the ranking officer. I learned shortly after my firs gig as a project manager that no matter how early I arrived at a meeting people would be shocked to get there after me and next time would be there earlier and earlier. Since 99% of meetings are complete waste of time anyway it is the height of stupidity to arrive to a meeting early...if my people are showing up at meetings early it tells me one thing...they do not have enough scope to keep them busy...they need more work or they need to be ran the frick off. I want them to show up at exactly the time they are supposed to...not early, not late. Thats what I do.

There is some data that suggests that doing this will put you in a advantageous position...especially when you walk in and start the damned thing and do so confidently and effectively...it is SHOCKING to people and they will jump to the conclusion, true or not, that you are about your business and do not have time nor brook any nonsense...sitting in a conference room for 15 minutes idly chatting or worse staring at your phone but obviously not reading emails or texts is a terrible look for management...it tells them all they need to know about your work load...




You may be right but I watched a person put that work in, early, late, weekends. They had the education to go along with the killer mentality and now that person is the CFO of one of the largest helicopters companies on planet earth. If this person had not showed up early left late, no way they are in that particular spot this second.

Probably driven by career choice but Ive seen people from bumf*ck Louisiana running major publicly traded companies and it took that dedication to get to that level.

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7457 posts
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:02 pm to
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You may be right but I watched a person put that work in, early, late, weekends. They had the education to go along with the killer mentality and now that person is the CFO of one of the largest helicopters companies on planet earth. If this person had not showed up early left late, no way they are in that particular spot this second.

Probably driven by career choice but Ive seen people from bumf*ck Louisiana running major publicly traded companies and it took that dedication to get to that level.



I would bet that this person was ON time to meetings when they could not avoid them, not early, not late. That is the epitome of effective time management and it is what should be expected, not being a quarter of an hour early doing frick all and concluding that your the lynch pen because you were early.

Arriving early, working late and being productive is how you get ahead...when you MUST attend a meeting simply be there when it starts. Better yet be so effective that even the dumbest most egotistical manager will recognize that your talents and efforts are far more productive anywhere BUT most meetings....
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