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re: Time to claim 1908
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:21 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:21 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Mike, you have to know the 1908 season, Haskell plays x, x plays y and you're at Carlisle and other teams
Remember I have spent better than 20 years studying 1898-1916 college football.
LSU coach Wingard played at Susquehanna back in 1898 and one of his teammates plays on the 1908 Michigan team. That made the 3rd team he played for that I know of; he may have played on another using assumed name.
The Nothern teams are loaded with mass player, playing 3 yards and a cloud of dust football. LSU and Carlisle play a far different game than the other teams. Carlisle is limited in players (being paid good money to play).
Remember I have spent better than 20 years studying 1898-1916 college football.
LSU coach Wingard played at Susquehanna back in 1898 and one of his teammates plays on the 1908 Michigan team. That made the 3rd team he played for that I know of; he may have played on another using assumed name.
The Nothern teams are loaded with mass player, playing 3 yards and a cloud of dust football. LSU and Carlisle play a far different game than the other teams. Carlisle is limited in players (being paid good money to play).
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:02 pm to tigger1
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Mike, you have to know the 1908 season, Haskell plays x, x plays y and you're at Carlisle and other teams
I get it that there are links to the top teams in those regions. The problem is that Haskell LOST to the teams that establish those links. LSU beat a team that lost to a team that lost to another team that lost to Carlisle does nothing to bolster LSU’s bonafides. I know that’s a little exaggerated since Nebraska does have closer ties. The best you have is Haskell “only” lost 10-0 to Nebraska who tied Minnesota who beat Carlisle who tied Penn (but also lost 17-0 to Harvard.) The problem there is that Nebraska connects directly to Carlisle through a 37-6 loss. The 10-0 loss was also played in a driving rain on a field that was a mud pit. It was actually Haskell’s best result of the season so the weather conditions do call in question its usefulness as a gauge of the level of the two teams. Likewise Nebraska’s tie with Minnesota wasn’t consistent with blowout losses to Kansas and Carlisle, the only other two legitimate opponents on their schedule. Minnesota beating Carlisle also did not match their 0-2 Western Conference performance (including a 29-0 loss to Chicago.) The direct loss by Nebraska against Carlisle seems more indicative of the level of both teams. As such the links don’t do much for establishing LSU’s level compared to Carlisle.
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