re: Time to claim 1908

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Haskell game is where Ty Cobb lost $3000.00 betting on Haskell to win. To say the least he was mad, he had just got back from Japan with his wife (if I remember correct, I do have copies of the articles).

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Haskell had years as a legitimate program, but 1908 wasn’t one of those. They went 3-5-1 with 2 of the wins over Drury and St Mary’s (Kansas) and the tie against Creighton. They also lost to Washburn. Their only other win was over a Southern team: Texas A&M. A&M for their part was only 3-5 with 2 of the wins over non-major teams Trinity (TX) and Southwestern (TX). They did beat TCU who was 6-3, but had 4 wins over non-major teams and 2 over Baylor. Baylor played a more legitimate schedule but was only 3-5, including an 89-0 loss to LSU. They beat A&M and TCU (going 1-2 against TCU) along with Tulane (1-1 against them). Tulane was the only team downstream from Haskell with a win against a team outside of Texas or Louisiana with wins over Ole Miss, Miss St and Washington (MO) on the way to 7-1 (before weaseling out of the LSU game.) Ole Miss only beat 3 non-majors (and lost to Rhodes.) Miss St beat only Ole Miss and 2 non-majors (but lost to USL.) Washington (MO) was barely major going 4-0-1 against non-major teams on 0-4 against majors. That’s where things dead end downstream from Haskell. Ty Cobb clearly was judging Haskell based on prior Haskell squads, not the one they fielded in 1908.