It would not shock me if Saban did that, nor Bowden, as I don't think he wanted Fisher in all honesty and that was a FSU brass hire.

The fact remains Gundy has made the same claims against Miles, and the offensive struggles have been ridiculous. I can fathom the INTs and such, but the whole offensive identity changes randomly in games and nothing matches Crowton's style ANYWHERE!

Reality is that Miles has his hands in the offense, how much is the question and is Crowton unhappy about it. I am sure he doesn't like being blamed for the defensive woes when Miles tries to defend the two buffoons on defense.

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Posted by Sammich

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Posted on 12/1/08 at 2:57 am to GeauxBob

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The fact remains Gundy has made the same claims against Miles, and the offensive struggles have been ridiculous. I can fathom the INTs and such, but the whole offensive identity changes randomly in games and nothing matches Crowton's style ANYWHERE!

Who cares what Mike "I'm a man...I'm 40" Gundy might say or think? Your argument is 4 years stale, unsubstantiated. Link it up or better - just stop posting crap.

Apparently do not understand the difference between the LSU Football Head Football Coach & his assistants. Gary Crowton did not have the capacity to be a Head Coach at BYU. He is an Assistant - Coordinator if you prefer. Miles & Crowton worked well together in 2007. And averaged more than 30 points per game in 2008. Regardless, Crowton was hired to do what Miles wants done on Offense.

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The fact remains that Miles offensive strategies didn't work. I am not using the Arky game as my prime example. I am talking about the past 4 years as a whole.

bullshite. Miles had the most successful first 3 years of ANY LSU Football coach. Year 4 LSU is 7-5 so far. Miles 2007 team holds the record for the most points ever produced by an LSU Football team & the National Championship. 1 SEC Championship & 2 SEC West Titles. His an Offenses have produced 2 different 1,000 yard Running Backs in back to back seasons. Ask when that last happened at LSU.

Changes have to be made this year. What they are, who they are are not up to you GeauxBob. We can all be thankful for that.

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Posted by King Joey

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Posted on 12/3/08 at 12:53 pm to GeauxBob

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I can fathom the INTs and such, but the whole offensive identity changes randomly in games and nothing matches Crowton's style ANYWHERE!

Tell, exactly what "style" fits the offenses Crowton has run every year at every stop he's been at? Crowton has run a wide variety of schemes and playcalling styles over the years at various stops and with various personnel. One of his biggest assets as an OC is that he is not necessarily tied to one "style" and can and has changed the identity of his offense to suit his personnel.

This year we had QB issues from the start, then lost our starter in the 3rd game, had some impressively bad luck with our 3rd QB (Lee), and then ended up with him injured so that we finished out the season with our 4th QB. And with all of that, plus a defense that was 9th in the SEC in total defense, 11th in scoring defense, and dead last in passing defense, we still managed to score over 30 points a game. And you want to take the credit for that away from Crowton and give it to Miles because you don't recognize Crowton's "style"?

As the season progressed (and Lee, it seemed, didn't), our offense went through fluctuations and variations. Whoever was in control of our offense seemed to clearly be trying to find something that worked with a true freshman QB or a RS freshman QB who kept throwing pick 6s. With the struggles we had this season, the offensive coaching did a heck of a job producing points. And they did it in exactly the style I would expect from Crowton.