re: Apparently Elder Scrolls 6 is officially set to skip PS5 entirely

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PlayStation's quantity of exclusives isn't equating to quality

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You’re not going to convince anyone here that games like:

Halo
Gears
Forza
Flight Simulator
Sea of Thieves

are better quality games than:

Uncharted
Last of Us
God of War
Gran Turismo
Spider-Man
Horizon

Regardless of profit margin.

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It's just paying for exclusive content

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So exactly like Microsoft did in the 360 era? I just gave plenty of examples that you chose not to acknowledge. How old are you dude? I’m starting to think that you’re just too young to remember. 360 had all the deals with COD that Sony took for PS4 onward

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I explained why this isn't feasible for Microsoft to emulate. Sony can pay less to purchase exclusives.

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They pay more. Several developers have stated that Sony would always pony up the extra. There was a post a few months ago on Reddit by a guy who would sit on meetings for a publisher where devs courted Sony/MS for exclusives. He said sony would always shell out the extra few million.

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Another tactic Sony uses is paying for co-branding and joint advertising that doesn't mention that a game comes out on other consoles.

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MS has done the EXACT same thing



All you’re saying is “it’s only bad when Sony does it.”

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Microsoft is going to keep buying studios so they can compete with Sony, and that is absolutely, without a doubt, verified by testimony given under oath, in response to the tactics Sony has been using. Be mad about it. Sony should have taken into account that they were out of their league if Microsoft ever decided to respond. They're getting what they asked for.

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Enjoy your shitty seasonal games. Starfield was the last hurrah and it's arse. It's not looking good out there for gamepass.

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All you’re saying is “it’s only bad when Sony does it.”

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Nope, I'm saying things that happened decades ago aren't relevant to this purchase. At all. Sure, those experiences may have contributed to Microsoft's realization that paying for exclusives isn't worth it, but that's about it. What y'all are saying is so irrelevant that a clearly politically-driven FTC didn't even try to bring such things up in court, and those idiots even tried to get Phil Spencer to testify that Microsoft would let Sony have Call of Duty on Playstation FOR FREE so you know they'd have tried literally anything.

If y'all think the FTC failed to bring up legit arguments there, well I certainly agree. All of their arguments were crap. I invite you to submit better arguments in a brief to the Circuit Court for the appeal. They clearly are willing to appeal this all the way to SCOTUS, so there's still plenty of time. Get after it.

Currently, you have a deadline of early next week to get something filed before the 9th Circuit, with that hearing scheduled for late this year. That's just the case for the FTC's attempt to block the closing though.

The FTC's internal competition case won't begin until they've exhausted those appeals on blocking the closing (or stopped pursuing them). Plenty of time for y'all to give the FTC your input. I'm sure they would value it.

Even better, maybe you could join Sony's "gamer's lawsuit" that is still pending and currently going through discovery.

Come on guys, if you really think you have legit arguments here YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Surely, since you are both so certain I am wrong (along with the US courts and very nation's competition authority), then by all means. You have the power and the ability to give your opinion without paying a single dime. Get to it.

We all know you won't though, because you know what you're saying isn't relevant to today's gaming market and you know Sony forced Microsoft's hand here. Jim Ryan was so scared of being questioned about this that he didn't even show up to the trial the FTC is currently appealing because he didn't want to be cross examined in person (both sides played clips from his deposition), but surely you guys know better. Absolutely.

You are a dork, dude You keep bringing up that stupid frickin trial when nobody gives a shite about it. I didn’t oppose the deal being blocked, nor do I know anyone that felt that way. I only addressed the comment that “Sony started it” when that’s objectively false. You’re in here waxing on about the FTC and writing a novel with appeal deadlines and other goofy shite. You sound like those morons that say “hur hurrr you didn’t play in the nfl so you can’t critique what that coach just did.” Stop lumping me in with Finch and whoever else you’re arguing with, because what I’ve said has nothing to do with anything they’ve said. I just laughed and pointed out some hypocrisy and then you roped me into something else entirely. I don’t give a shite about who buys who.

I have 0 dog in this fight. I buy every console every generation, I have GamePass, yada yada, so I’m not affected in the slightest. You just parrot what all the other tards yap about on Reddit, which is why you can’t directly address any comments with substantive replies and instead try to bring up the FTC in every post.

The only true FANBOY on this board. You should be embarrassed for writing all that shite out.





Here are the facts:

- The vast majority of Sony acquisitions have been with studios that were already making games for PlayStation. Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Guerilla, etc

- None of the acquisitions have been of industry giants or entire publishers. Sony has always been quite good at taking in relatively small studios and developing them into big time players. Sucker Punch, Guerilla, Bluepoint are all examples of small studios being taken under the wing of Sony to become key names in the industry.

- Microsoft has done the above approach in the last. Look at Bungie. As of late, though, they’ve sucked at this. In fact, they’ve been King Midas in reverse - everything they’ve touched has turned to shite. New Halo trilogy, new Gears trilogy, etc

- Because they’ve been struggling to develop studios with quality product, MS has pivoted. They’ve now chosen to acquire big players and force consumers to move platforms.. Mojang, Zenimax, and now Activision Blizzard.

- The two strategies are clear - one takes in small, creative studios with goal to nurture them into big players; the other takes in big, proven players to have the most influential franchises in the industry and force people over en masse.

- Both approaches are quite viable, but totally incomparable. It takes a complete FANBOY to not see that

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Since Microsoft is turning more profit from XBox than Sony is from PlayStation, that means YOU made the argument that Microsoft has more quality games.

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You misunderstood what I said. You said:

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Microsoft is going to keep buying studios so they can compete with Sony

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PlayStation's quantity of exclusives isn't equating to quality, and XBox's higher profit margin bears that out.

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My comment:

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Quantity over Quality doesn’t equate to profits

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Doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Microsoft buying all of these studios will inevitably lead to more exclusives. Probably more exclusives than Sony. And when I use the term exclusives, I mean first party exclusives.

This will lead to a larger QUANTITY of studios/exclusives over Sony. That doesn’t mean they’ll be good/great games. And it also doesn’t mean that everyone will want to play them. Probably because of the quality of them. So again, quantity over quality doesn’t equate to profits.

MORE doesn’t always mean BETTER.

For example, why is the PS5 outselling the Xbox Series X|S? And don’t bring up Nintendo, they have a 3 year head start on both systems.

Quality of exclusives?
Quantity of exclusives?

If Game Pass is “the best deal in gaming”, why isn’t it selling more consoles?

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Also, your list is crap.

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No one is rushing to GameStop on release day to spend $70 on at least half of what’s in your list.

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that won't come out for another 3 years

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Im reading 7 years, 2030 or if they're lucky 2029. They're concentrating on expansions for Starfield and another game i dont remember the name of. Said they could possibly start working on it by the end of 2026 beginning of 2027.

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You keep bringing up that stupid frickin trial when nobody gives a shite about it

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This is where you're wrong. That moron fanboi keeps making the argument that Microsoft is building a monopoly. Nothing could be further from the truth. The trial is relevant to calling out his delusion. If you're agreeing with him, you're defending his delusion.

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You just parrot what all the other tards yap about on Reddit

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I spend 0 time on Reddit. Everything I said is based on the actual facts of the MS/ABK purchase.

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The only true FANBOY on this board. You should be embarrassed for writing all that shite out.

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Not in the least. Game Pass is simply the best deal in gaming right now. I don't see any value in a PS5 whatsoever. They don't have enough exclusives to make a purchase worth it.

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Both approaches are quite viable, but totally incomparable. It takes a complete FANBOY to not see that

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You skipped the part where Sony pays third party studios to release exclusives on PS5 because they've been

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struggling to develop studios with quality product

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The paying third parties for exclusives is why Microsoft decided to buy studios. It's the part only a fanboy would keep ignoring. MS determined it wasn't economical to compete with Sony in that way and that they would get more value from acquiring assets and exclusives together. That is a perfectly reasonable conclusion.