re: Detransitioner Sues Medical Professionals Who Gave Her A Double Mastectomy At 16

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Do we know that happened here?

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We do not know—nor will we likely ever know, even if it goes to trial as what we will hear at trial is he said she said—but that is what she's alleging and everything she's alleging lines up with what whistleblowers are saying is happening out there.

I don't know for a fact that Michael Jackson diddled little kids, but what I know abut the situation makes me sure believe he did.

I have no problem approaching it as a hypothetical, though. I have already posted above that if the provider gave all the information and didn't try to unduly influence the parents by attempting to scare them then I agree with the "eff the parents, it's all their fault" narrative.

But if the doctors did do what the woman alleges, does your stance change, or was that just a bit of a red herring, like when pro-abortionists bring up rape and incest?

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but I like personal responsibility

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I do too, and I also like professional responsibility. The doctor in this scenario has a professional responsibility to act according to the ethical guidelines of his or her profession.

I think the patients can only effectively accept personal responsibility in this situation if the provider is also accepting his or her professional responsibility. Otherwise there's a knowledge gap that is unreasonable to expect personal responsibility to bridge...if not, what does someone need 8 years of school, a couple of years of internship, and 3 years of residency to practice medicine for?

Hell, we got the internet now. Surely there's a Youtube video out there on how to do brain surgery.

I seem to recall from another board that you are an engineer. If that's correct, how does it work in engineering?

Let's say I hire your firm to design a nuclear reactor in a plant I'm building. Let's say you know your proposed design is flawed and risky but you don't disclose that information. In fact, let's say you give a presentation specifically on how we need to go with your design or else the plant in likely to meltdown. You ask me, "Would you rather have a meltdown with that design or no meltdown with this design?" all the while knowing that the research and data indicates that there is very little risk in the design you are claiming is risky and there is a tremendous amount of risk in the one you are proposing.

When the reactor melts and people die, no lawsuits are appropriate? I should have done the calculations myself and figured out which one was the risky design? That was a failure of personal responsibility?

Is that how it works in engineering?