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re: Permit system for Zion

Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Tigers13
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2005
1758 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:24 am to
We were there this summer and did the daily lottery each day and got permits for Angels Landing with no problem. You don't need a permit for the Narrow or the Subway unless your hiking from the top down which would require repelling down with your own ropes and equipement. If you hike from the bottom up, no permit required which is what novice hikers would be doing.

Also for Angels Landing, you can hike up to Scout's lookout with no permit. We had a permit but we went in the afternoon and there was no one up there. Even if I didn't have a permit I would've taken my chances and hiked to Angel's Landing (not sure what the penalty is). You probably can't do that in the morning when it's more crowded.
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1328 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 12:23 pm to
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You don't need a permit for the Subway unless you’re hiking from the top down which would require repelling down with your own ropes and equipement.

I think you need a permit to hike to the Subway regardless of the way you go.
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Wilderness Permits for the Left Fork of North Creek (Subway) Plan Ahead and Prepare

There are two different ways to explore the Left Fork of North Creek (Subway) by canyoneering and/or hiking. A Wilderness permit is always required for this area. The Wilderness permit application process is the same for all canyoneers and/or hikers going into Left Fork. The only difference will be the starting and ending trailheads listed on your reservation and permit.
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