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re: Patients taking Eli Lilly's retatrutide lost 58 pounds, on average, in a phase 2 clinical
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:17 am to Earnest_P
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:17 am to Earnest_P
Oh you sweet summer child.
To a degree it is simple, but simple doesn't mean easy.
This tells me you have never been significantly anaerobically fit in your life.
But that 20kg plate is chasing you around the gym? Try descending a mountain pass at over 50mph with nothing between you and hundreds of feet bouncing off boulders but a guard rail not designed to stop you.
I tell you what Mr. Worrell I have a climbing based training day planned for Sunday, 60 miles and just over 17,000 vertical feet of climbing I will put good money up that you can't finish it in 3X the time it takes me to finish if you can even finish the first climb.
The next time you have been in the gym for 6 straight hours exercising at a HR of 140-200 never stopping and looking at another set that is going to redline you once again all without A/C then you might have an idea what suffering feels like.
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Getting fit aerobically is simple,
To a degree it is simple, but simple doesn't mean easy.
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doesn’t take long,
This tells me you have never been significantly anaerobically fit in your life.
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doesn’t involve anything scary.
But that 20kg plate is chasing you around the gym? Try descending a mountain pass at over 50mph with nothing between you and hundreds of feet bouncing off boulders but a guard rail not designed to stop you.
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Out here acting like riding a bike is suffering.
I tell you what Mr. Worrell I have a climbing based training day planned for Sunday, 60 miles and just over 17,000 vertical feet of climbing I will put good money up that you can't finish it in 3X the time it takes me to finish if you can even finish the first climb.
The next time you have been in the gym for 6 straight hours exercising at a HR of 140-200 never stopping and looking at another set that is going to redline you once again all without A/C then you might have an idea what suffering feels like.
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:30 am to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
being anaerobically fit to the level you are talking about is a waste of fricking time unless you enjoy it.
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But that 20kg plate is chasing you around the gym? Try descending a mountain pass at over 50mph with nothing between you and hundreds of feet bouncing off boulders but a guard rail not designed to stop you.
why? you gonna run from every encounter you have??? or fight? i would much rather be strong and fight
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I tell you what Mr. Worrell I have a climbing based training day planned for Sunday, 60 miles and just over 17,000 vertical feet of climbing I will put good money up that you can't finish it in 3X the time it takes me to finish if you can even finish the first climb.
but why? do you think this pertains to the average person
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The next time you have been in the gym for 6 straight hours exercising at a HR of 140-200 never stopping and looking at another set that is going to redline you once again all without A/C then you might have an idea what suffering feels like.
again how in the frick is this a good use of time? in the end there has to be results to be had from that time spent. very little
its cool you love the shite you do...great, but
1) nothing more than walking is needed for aerobic health
2) weightlifting progressively give way more bang for your buck
3) strength is the basis of fitness
4) strength improves quality of life much more than being able to run a marathon ever will
5) lifting is much better for aesthetics because in the end it all comes down to being healthier and looking better.
frick a 6 hour exercise session, dont care if its weightlifting, running, biking, climbing whatever...complete waste of training economy.
congrats though
Posted on 8/31/23 at 3:21 pm to Obtuse1
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This tells me you have never been significantly anaerobically fit in your life.
Define significantly. It is easy and simple to gain the ability to do long term steady state cardio, and it doesn’t take long to become decently aerobically fit.
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But that 20kg plate is chasing you around the gym?
You said “really strong”. Don’t change it to being able to lift what any able-bodied person can lift on day 1 in the gym.
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Try descending a mountain pass at over 50mph with nothing between you and hundreds of feet bouncing off boulders but a guard rail not designed to stop you.
That’s a sport, it’s not at all necessarily a part of getting fit. Nobody has to go mountain biking to get fit.
Everyone who wants to get “really strong” will step out of the rack with hundreds of pounds on their back.
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I tell you what Mr. Worrell I have a climbing based training day planned for Sunday, 60 miles and just over 17,000 vertical feet of climbing I will put good money up that you can't finish it in 3X the time it takes me to finish if you can even finish the first climb. The next time you have been in the gym for 6 straight hours exercising at a HR of 140-200 never stopping and looking at another set that is going to redline you once again all without A/C then you might have an idea what suffering feels like.
You’re choosing unnecessary suffering because you like riding a bike in an extreme fashion. Good for you, but you’re not making apt comparisons.
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