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Do any of you know about the Missouri Law that allows instate kids to commit in state

Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:40 pm
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:40 pm
They can receive NIL money while in HS.

So I wonder what happens when kid collects all that money and then goes to ND at the last minute.

Also how is a HS Kid eligible while getting paid for football
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:48 pm to
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They can receive NIL money while in HS.


I thought that was a violation of one of the very few NCAA rules on NIL. aTm's collective got struck down as a tax exempt organization but that was by the IRS.
Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:57 pm to
They can only collect if they go to an in state school
Posted by jagalumtigerfanatic
lake charles
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:26 pm to
Florida State is doing with uncommitted kids right now.
Posted by jagalumtigerfanatic
lake charles
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:29 pm to
Video

FSU says it’s not true.
Posted by eltigre2
The Woodlands, Tx
Member since Feb 2019
643 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:49 pm to
The schools aren’t paying him. It is a NIL deal with an outside firm.
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
4261 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:56 pm to
FSU has to save face. They paying uncommitted kids big youtuber didn't want to show receipts or give high school player name. He said the kid showed him the monthly deposits from FSU it was in the thousands.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13120 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 2:50 am to
State laws supercedes a made up organizations half asked attempts at governing. The biggest issue with NIL, and why Congress will unfortunately have to get involved, is that states can make law giving their schools a disadvantage. Texas allows school sponsored collectives, Missouri this disaster and Tennessee outright threatened the NCAA with a lawsuit if bowl banned with laws designed around NIL. Paying the kids isn't the issue, the adults in charge are.
Posted by aqross5054
Member since Aug 2019
23 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:55 am to
I live in St. Louis and the Law is in essence a circumvention of the traditional signing. While they cannot sign a binding NLI, you can sign a financial aid agreement with a university starting August 1st of your final academic year. It is a commitment to receive financial aid at a university, but not binding in the same manner as an NLI. So, the law in essence lets any in state player that has a financial aid agreement completed with an in state school start receiving financial gain from NIL opportunities. It doesn’t violate the NIL rules because it’s technically an agreement with the academic institution rather than a commitment to the athletic program.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:29 am to
What is to stop the athlete from signing financial aid agreements with multiple schools and then attending an out of state university?
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:32 am to
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They can receive NIL money while in HS.

Minors can’t sign contracts. Now it’s mom and dad’s issue.
If they are 18, they are 18. Nobody would say shite if they were bussing tables.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:48 am to
What is to stop an NIL bag from a Texas business from landing in the athlete's lap once they are eligible to receive NIL benefits as a high school student?

Basically the way I see it, Mizzou high school athletes get open season for the highest bidder.

Could this bankrupt Mizzou NIL efforts (having to pay and fend off in state recruits before they even are college eligible?)

If UGA had to play footsie with all of the high school recruits in Georgia, this would be a huge strain on limited resources.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:20 am to
Look at this ungodly mess. These states are passing legislation so fast that no one has any idea how or why they are doing it. One thing is certain, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansas, have agreed to follow the bylaws of the NCAA as a voluntary partner and are now hiding behind state "collective" laws in direct defiance.

The rest of us have our popcorn out waiting to see what shoe drops next before we pass similar legislation.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:04 am to
This law doesn't appear like a recruiting win (yet).

Paying NIL a different way does not automatically make it a better way.

It will be one to wait and watch.

For UGA and Bama (who do not try to set the market on NIL deals for high schoolers... yet) this appears to be a nothingburger.
If anything, it could be a strain on Missouri's NIL resources. How many high schoolers are going to get checks? How many juniors are going to get upset that those funds aren't going to players who actually earn the wins?
Posted by aqross5054
Member since Aug 2019
23 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:02 pm to
The law only applies to a Missouri resident with a financial aid agreement to a Missouri institution. The idea is it is what allows players to get sponsors, like Luther Burden having a number of endorsements in St. Louis.
Posted by aqross5054
Member since Aug 2019
23 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:30 pm to
The idea of the law isn’t checks. Missouri NIL focus has definitely been more built on endorsements for its top in state guys, so this law helps bolster that. A guy like Luther Burden has a ton of endorsements in St. Louis, so this law is aimed at increasing that path for top Missouri guys that traditionally leave the state in recent years.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:46 pm to
What's to prevent a check from a Texas company?

What's to prevent Burden from transferring 2024?
Posted by aqross5054
Member since Aug 2019
23 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:51 pm to
Presumably contract language. That hypothetical is redundant because that’s already happening. Obviously nothing short of NCAA regulation would prevent that hypothetical. The law is solely aimed at incentivizing a high school kid in Missouri to go to school in Missouri initially.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

The law is solely aimed at incentivizing a high school kid in Missouri to go to school in Missouri initially.


But it can't even accomplish that.

Once the kid files financial aid papers with Missouri (for example), the kid is eligible for NIL as a high school senior.

Why can't Texas or USC or Miami shove NIL at the kid who can now receive NIL legally?
This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 11:11 pm
Posted by aqross5054
Member since Aug 2019
23 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 6:24 am to
I mean, it kind of has. You are fully right that their is gray area that we will see overtime how that works, But Mizzou has a strong chance of landing 2 in state five stars, both guys who early on looked like they would go out of state. Not saying it’s the laws effect, but Missouri as a state embracing NIL for the big name guys in the Missouri metro areas is starting to pay off. Time will tell how much the law aides that, but it doesn’t seem to be pointless or a nothing burger yet.
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