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re: Alan Dershowitz Says Jack Smith May Be Indicted If Trump Wins Case

Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:36 pm to
Dershowitz keeps claiming this is a First Amendment case. It is not. The indictment specifically states Trump has a right to voice his opinion about the election, and even lie about the election if he wants to. Trump is not being indicted for statements made in his Jan. 6 speech.

The First Amendment does not protect your right to commit a crime. If your speech is part of a fraudulent conspiracy, you aren't protected.

I think the indictment might be a stretch on fraud against the US, but you can expect to hear more evidence as co conspirators get charged in superceding indictments.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19991 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:41 pm to
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The First Amendment does not protect your right to commit a crime. If your speech is part of a fraudulent conspiracy, you aren't protected.


The only fraudulent conspiracy to deny rights is the one Jack O. Smith has created. There has been a long line of those fraudulent conspiracies against Trump starting with Hillary's pee pee dossier and the Russia hoax.

Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
3802 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:04 pm to
All jackass Dems are ignorant dumbshits and simply cannot help themselves.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12283 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:34 pm to
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Dershowitz keeps claiming this is a First Amendment case. It is not. The indictment specifically


So a unknown poster knows more than a Harvard law professor who just happens to be an expert on constitutional law. Read that slowly and you will see how stupid your post is.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11994 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Dershowitz keeps claiming this is a First Amendment case. It is not. The indictment specifically states Trump has a right to voice his opinion about the election, and even lie about the election if he wants to. Trump is not being indicted for statements made in his Jan. 6 speech.

The First Amendment does not protect your right to commit a crime. If your speech is part of a fraudulent conspiracy, you aren't protected.

I think the indictment might be a stretch on fraud against the US, but you can expect to hear more evidence as co conspirators get charged in superceding indictments.


If you were correct about this, Smith would not have manipulated Trump's comments when he quoted him in the indictment.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:26 pm to
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The First Amendment does not protect your right to commit a crime. If your speech is part of a fraudulent conspiracy, you aren't protected.


Good to know. With that logic every person who spread Russian collusion lies will now be charged for trying to overthrow a democratically elected president.
Posted by Category5
Member since Mar 2019
292 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:27 pm to
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If your speech is part of a fraudulent conspiracy


Wouldn't the DOJ's jock strap lawyer have to prove Trump didn't believe he lost the election in order to prove a crime?
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29099 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:00 pm to
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. If your speech is part of a fraudulent conspiracy, you aren't protected.


I’d like to air some legal grievances against some government officials then.
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