re: Indexed Universal Life policy. Who has done it?

How much are you putting in and how long have you been doing it? Let’s run the numbers for you.

Edit: also what’s your age, health, and death benefit value? Let’s go ahead and make a comparable term quote.

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Well based off what I’m putting in right now at 58 I’m going to have 65k a year In tax free income. If I pay it to 63 I’ll have about 75k per year…..TAXFREE

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Assuming you live to 100 and assuming you are borrowing against your death benefit (not cash value), $65k/yr at age 58 would be $2,730,000 for then remaining 42 years.

Or, $75k/year at age 63 would be $2,775,000 for the remaining 37 years.

Is this a $3M death benefit policy?

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Well based off what I’m putting in right now at 58 I’m going to have 65k a year In tax free income. If I pay it to 63 I’ll have about 75k per year…..TAXFREE

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I’d like to see these IRR calculations. Since 1928 the S&P 500 would have returned only 5.78% annualized with those stipulations (up to 10% cap in up years, flat in down years). Even without accounting for product fees, your 23 year FV of premiums would be ~$653,500, yet someone is going to give you $65k per year tax free for 30+ years off of that money, which would require a rate of return in the distribution phase of at least 9.25%???

The math simply doesn’t add up, even before you take into consideration the fact the insurance company is in business to actually make a profit.

ETA- the best 23 year rolling period since 1928 would have had annualized returns of 6.7%, which would have grown your capital to $747,000. $65k per year in withdrawals off of that for 30 years would require an annualized rate of return of 7.78%, which literally has never happened in any 15 year rolling period in market history, much less any 30 year period. This is some snake oil math my friend.