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Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:34 pm
I was at the debacle of a game Saturday.The biggest problem with this team is playcalling on both sides of the ball.
1). Defense=numerous times we had Ole Piss backed up 3rd and a mile and each time they converted with a pass play to a damned receiver running wide open in the secondary.This is never supposed to happen. Thsi defense cannot tackle as well. They need to be taught to wrap up.
2) Offense=A total screwup of offensive playcalling that i have ever see. If we are so geared up on the running game why in the hell have we become a pass 1st run 2nd team with a freshman QB that has a knack for throwing INT's.
Trindon Holliday gets 1 offensive touch in the game and that came after the outcome was decided.
What the hell is JL running the option for.
I dont understand everbody calling for Les Miles head. Last year he was the best thing since sliced bread. This year after a disappointing season he is a piece of shite and should be fired, but i do beleive since he is the head coach the buck stops with him.
1). Defense=numerous times we had Ole Piss backed up 3rd and a mile and each time they converted with a pass play to a damned receiver running wide open in the secondary.This is never supposed to happen. Thsi defense cannot tackle as well. They need to be taught to wrap up.
2) Offense=A total screwup of offensive playcalling that i have ever see. If we are so geared up on the running game why in the hell have we become a pass 1st run 2nd team with a freshman QB that has a knack for throwing INT's.
Trindon Holliday gets 1 offensive touch in the game and that came after the outcome was decided.
What the hell is JL running the option for.
I dont understand everbody calling for Les Miles head. Last year he was the best thing since sliced bread. This year after a disappointing season he is a piece of shite and should be fired, but i do beleive since he is the head coach the buck stops with him.
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Posted on 11/24/08 at 1:51 pm to JACKSONTIGER70
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What the hell is JL running the option for
ABSOLUTELY!!
Did you see in the Ole Miss game how no one covered Lee on the option?! They knew he wasn't going to run it... he hardly ever has. And when he does, he gives slow white boys a bad name.
Look... I know he's a young, good kid that's doing all he can to improve. But some kids have it, some don't. He doesn't IMO.
1) He offers no threat as an option QB
2) Doesn't seem to think well under pressure
3) Doesn't show any signs of significant improvement.
Good kid. I hope he lives a long, happy life and has lots of kids. Hell, I hope he wins the lottery. But com'on...
Jefferson offers a true option threat. In just a half game, seems to know when to throw it away. And for only playing 1/2 game, seems like someone who will get better with experience.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:01 pm to AustinTigr
my thoughts exactly. Did you see when JJ stpeed on the field you could see the whole thought of Ole Miss defense changed. Not only can he beat you running the option, but if you blitz him he will tuck it and run and not throw pix sixes like the are legal
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:04 pm to JACKSONTIGER70
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The biggest problem with this team is playcalling on both sides of the ball.
I agree the playcalling has been suspect at times, but the biggest problems with this team are no discipline, no pride, no sense of urgency, no leadership, and piss poor tackling. Miles does not have control of this team right now. Period. It looks like this team has given up.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:05 pm to JACKSONTIGER70
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If we are so geared up on the running game why in the hell have we become a pass 1st run 2nd team with a freshman QB that has a knack for throwing INT's.
Because opposing defenses key in on this and sell out against the run forcing one of our QBs, who have tendencies to throw INT's, to win the game..
Defensively, we are just bad. We have little problem forcing third and longs, its preventing them from converting those third and longs where we are horrible. 3rd and 17 and they get a TD? That's just horrible.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:06 pm to JACKSONTIGER70
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I was at the debacle of a game Saturday.The biggest problem with this team is playcalling on both sides of the ball.
It's obvious.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:07 pm to JACKSONTIGER70
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The biggest problem with this team is playcalling
Not even close.
QB play and the inability to effectively implement the defensive scheme that they are running are much larger problems.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:08 pm to AustinTigr
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Jefferson offers a true option threat. In just a half game, seems to know when to throw it away. And for only playing 1/2 game, seems like someone who will get better with experience.
Agreed, I liked Jefferson better then Lee. I know JJ didn't set the world on fire, but he had NO running game to support him and he threw the ball away when needed and ran the ball when no one was open. The key to a successful season this year was our QB play to limit mistakes, Jefferson seems to limit his mistakes more then Lee. But then again, I haven't been around these players all year..
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:13 pm to moneyg
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Not even close.
QB play and the inability to effectively implement the defensive scheme that they are running are much larger problems.
Calling 35 pass plays with a third-string, redshirt freshman QB, putting the game in his hands when you have NFL caliber talent in the O-line and at RB is brilliant coaching.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:16 pm to TX Tiger
What choice do you have when you're down 21-3 and your star RB is averaging 1 yard per carry?
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:17 pm to Chimlim
All in all, the coaching staff has been fricking terrible this year
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:19 pm to Chimlim
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What choice do you have when you're down 21-3 and your star RB is averaging 1 yard per carry?
You figure out a gameplan that puts the ball in your playmakers' hands. You don't rely on a third string redshirt freshman QB to win the game for you.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:24 pm to TX Tiger
The problem was falling behind that early by so much. You can't play a ground control game, and you can only run so many bubble screens and WR reverses. But when the defense totally sells out against the run, you have little choice.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:28 pm to drewb808
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All in all, the coaching staff has been fricking terrible this year
While I agree somewhat with this (especially for anyone making as much money as les does)
But at what point does it not become coaching, but the lack of talent on the field, or the inability of the players to not do as thier told I.E. coverages, routes etc.
I'm afraid all of our so called talent, just really isnt as good as we thought or want to believe. I mean, we look slow!
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:30 pm to Chimlim
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Jefferson offers a true option threat. In just a half game, seems to know when to throw it away
+1. Im sure the coaches drilled it in his head to get rid of the ball when nothing was there. While I appreciate Jarrett Lee trying to make a play, he didn't seem to have a grasp of when the play just isnt there to be made. That being said, if JJ must start against Arkansas, id like to see some roll outs where we move the pocket like we;ve done several times with Lee.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:34 pm to Chimlim
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The problem was falling behind that early by so much. You can't play a ground control game, and you can only run so many bubble screens and WR reverses. But when the defense totally sells out against the run, you have little choice.
Correct me if I'm wrong but at the time of the opening kickoff the score is 0-0.
It is at said point when said gameplan should be implemented.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:36 pm to mes1100
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But at what point does it not become coaching, but the lack of talent on the field,
So now coaches have nothing to do with recruiting talent?
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:39 pm to Cornholio
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It looks like this team has given up.
TOTALLY agree.
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:42 pm to TX Tiger
I agree with everthing being said here, but the first play of the game we line up in the shotgun when we know and the whole world knows that our weak spot is the QB position, that was terrible.
You must get the ball to your weapons and let them make a play for you. I mean what happened to throwing to the damned tight end just to keep the defense honest and keep them from loading up the box, or a bubble screen.
I understand other teams are selling out on the run and daring us to throw the ball, but that dont mean we have to throw the damned ball 45 yard down field everytime this happens. Has Crowton ever heard of high percentage passing
You must get the ball to your weapons and let them make a play for you. I mean what happened to throwing to the damned tight end just to keep the defense honest and keep them from loading up the box, or a bubble screen.
I understand other teams are selling out on the run and daring us to throw the ball, but that dont mean we have to throw the damned ball 45 yard down field everytime this happens. Has Crowton ever heard of high percentage passing
Posted on 11/24/08 at 2:50 pm to JACKSONTIGER70
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Has Crowton ever heard of high percentage passing
Obviously not.
And it seems to me the players have given up on the coaches and their horrendous gameplans.
They are not put in position to win and that has frustrated the entire team (offense and defense).
In the past three years, superior talent has been able to overcome it. The talent level has dropped off slightly and you see what a difference that has made.
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