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re: Monmouth Poll: Trump’s net-negative favorability rating is lowest in poll’s history

Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:51 pm to
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74 million votes... but unfavorable?

I want the Trump years back. He's running? I'm rolling with him. Let's go.




In case you were counting, he got less votes than his opponent in both elections.

He performed worse than down ballot candidates in virtually every election in every swing state, which is almost impossible to do.

The data is completely undeniable, even if you want to say that Biden won by cheating, the Republicans that were running down ballot presumable did not.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5362 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 1:02 pm to
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He performed worse than down ballot candidates in virtually every election in every swing state, which is almost impossible to do.



There were between 5.5-6 million people in 2020 who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but not Trump. There were a similar number of people in 2016 who did the same thing. The only difference was Dems blocked Green Party ballot access in the swing states in 2020. Jill Stein took over 132K votes from Hillary in PA/WI/MI, and Trump won those states by under 78K. If Stein wasn't on the ballot Trump would've lost those states and the Electoral College. Howie Hawkins, the Green Party candidate in 2020, was reduced to a write-in campaign and received under 15K votes in MI/WI/PA. Not only that, but the Libertarian ticket in 2016 was running as Democrat-lite. Bill Weld, Gary Johnson's running mate, constantly went on MSNBC to talk about how amazing Hillary Clinton was.

Trump literally can't win unless he has help from a spoiler candidate. In 2020 there was no Green Party candidate on the ballot in the swing states and Jo Jorgensen was not running as a Democrat like the Johnson/Weld ticket. Dems will block Manchin or RFK Jr. from appearing on the ballot if they run 3rd party as well.

Going back to the 5.5-6 million ticket-splitters in 2020 and 2016, the last time there was that volume of ticket-splitters was in 1996. That was because Bob Dole had to contend with a spoiler in Ross Perot. Perot's supporters voted Republican down the rest of their ballots. Trump didn't even have a spoiler to contend with. His 2 opponents have been the most hated Democrat in history and a 77 year-old with dementia, yet millions of people didn't vote for him but voted Republican down ballot. Trump had the weakest opponent on the entire ballot in both 2016 and 2020, yet millions of people who are Republican-leaning said "no thanks." That is an indictment of how shitty of a General Election candidate Trump is.

Posted by Giantkiller
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Member since Sep 2007
21470 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 1:07 pm to
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In case you were counting, he got less votes than his opponent in both elections.

He performed worse than down ballot candidates in virtually every election in every swing state, which is almost impossible to do.

The data is completely undeniable, even if you want to say that Biden won by cheating, the Republicans that were running down ballot presumable did not.


Well then sounds like it's settled. I guess Ron will get the nomination then?
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