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DeSantis and Trump both need to come out clear on these 5 issues

Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:10 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
9995 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:10 pm
In no particular order


1) Ukraine/MIC

2) Immigration

3) Trade

4) Pharmaceutical industrial complex/vaccines/SSRIs/etc

5) 4th Branch /Beurocratic state

DeSantis has established himself as the social conservative option, which is good. But he needs to clearly establish himself as more "based" and more "right wing" on the other 5 issues. If not, he won't be able to overcome Trump's semi-incumbent status, name ID, and popularity in his base.

It is a long shot as it is. But until DeSantis clearly establishes where he is and how he is clearly better than Trump on those issues, he won't be able to make any headway.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25429 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:13 pm to
I don't disagree. My support for RD is based on what I know right now; he could say some things that would change my primary vote.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8967 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:15 pm to
You're still thinking this is a primary though. Polls, dozens of different sources, show about 90% of the gop has their mind made up - whether for trump or rds. There is not enough undecided to matter, to make up the difference.

The only way Ron has any shot whatsoever is if they play around with and change the delegate voting structure like Dems did with Bernie. Even then it's a longshot.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39364 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:17 pm to
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1) Ukraine




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2) Immigration




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3) Trade


Ron DeSantis says he will try to revoke China’s trade status if elected president


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4) Pharmaceutical industrial complex/vaccines/SSRIs/etc


DeSantis calls for grand jury to investigate Covid-19 vaccines

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5) 4th Branch /Beurocratic state


THIS is how Ron DeSantis plans to DISMANTLE the Deep State




This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 6:18 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
9995 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:18 pm to
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The only way Ron has any shot whatsoever is if


He courts Trump's base. And shows he can implement his policy and wants to, and will go further.

He is going to need to get bold and make some moves. And in quick order.

To this day, I honestly don't know where he stands on the Ukraine conflict and how he is going to end it.

His Immigration speech was a good move and he seemed further to the right on Trump on this issue. Which is good.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
49935 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:18 pm to
Trump has a demonstrable history on most of these.

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1) Ukraine/MIC


Daddy Putin must be appeased.

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2) Immigration


Wall building makes for great fundraising.

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3) Trade


Tariffs and if that doesn't work tariffs.

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4) Pharmaceutical industrial complex/vaccines/SSRIs/etc


Two words: WARP SPEED!
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8967 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:22 pm to
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He courts Trump's base. And shows he can implement his policy and wants to, and will go further.


You and I both know, at least I know, that's never going to happen. There is nothing he can say to sway my vote, and all of my coworkers feel the same way. Our minds are made up.

If you're in the 10% undecided group, good for you, you've got some decisions to make. There's nothing Trump can say to sway rds voters. There's not enough margin to turn this election, that's why you'll see delegate rules manipulation.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3277 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 6:58 pm to
how do you people not understand none of the issues matter? it's not real. they're all puppets except Trump and he can't do anything anyway, so why does any of that matter. You might as well just discuss a fantasy novel.

It's all fake
Posted by BluestateGeorgia
Member since Jul 2023
110 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:41 pm to
I get your point especially on the fleecing of American taxpayers by funding the Biden family slush fund in Ukraine.

DeSantis isn't beating Trump regardless of his answers.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
11853 posts
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:17 pm to
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DeSantis and Trump both need to come out clear on these 5 issues

I can agree on this.

It would be nice to hear how either plans to get it done also.
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