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re: The Ukrainian Counter Offensive

Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:01 pm to
Baker and the Bush I team recognized Eastern Europe as being in Russias sphere of influence. There was no desire to lunge eastwards. It would end in pointless conflict. The few neocons in that administration who wanted to, like Cheney, were roundly considered crazy.

But everything changed under Clinton, the neocons dominated his administration, and we went from detente, to the offensive.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

sive by Lima WhiskeyBaker and the Bush I team recognized Eastern Europe as being in Russias sphere of influence

Yes

quote:

There was no desire to lunge eastwards.


Correct[

quote]But everything changed under Clinton, the neocons dominated his administration, and we went from detente, to the offensive. [/quote]

Actually times changed. The USSR collapsed. The Warsaw Pact got a get out of jail free card. They wanted protection from Russia. Protection via NATO was granted.
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