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re: Why did Trump approve 250 million in military aid for Ukraine against Russia?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:34 pm to Solo Cam
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:34 pm to Solo Cam
quote:
Trump bought a half a billion dollars in weapons and sent to Ukraine to fight Russians??
At the time it was a deterrent. Not to fight.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:34 pm to GumboPot
quote:
They were so mad Trump was fricking with their money laundering operation.
Before Ron entered the race, almost every single person on here agreed with this statement.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:36 pm to GumboPot
quote:How'd that work out?
At the time it was a deterrent. Not to fight.
Why was he sending weapons to a non-nato member on Russia's border?
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:36 pm to Solo Cam
He released it because it had already been voted on and appropriated by Congress. You know, the way the constitution guarantees our government operates?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:37 pm to Solo Cam
quote:
Trump bought a half a billion dollars in weapons and sent to Ukraine to fight Russians??
*From Raytheon*
I have no problem with him doing that instead of just sending straight cash, but it could easily be pointed out that he simply hooked up his MIC establishment buddies instead of hooking up the embassy.
quote:
instead of just releasing the money to the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine for them to distribute to their best buddy contractors Trump purchased $500 million in stinger missiles from Raytheon
Think about this sentence...
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:37 pm to Solo Cam
quote:
Wait, so now it's good to send resources to Ukraine?
Because it was so good Trump copied Ronald Reagan's foreign policy philosophy; Peace Through Strength.
In other words, carry a big fricking gun with a big wallet and real intent and no one will frick with you.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:37 pm to loogaroo
quote:You guys are missing the point completely. Why was trump spending hundreds of millions of dollars to fund a country's army on Russias border that is not a member of NATO?
Before Ron entered the race, almost every single person on here agreed with this statement.
Less corruption? Awesome. Now why was he sending them weapons and money?
Do you guys support sending Ukraine weapons and money or just when your guy does it? I honestly can't keep up with this logic.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:38 pm to loogaroo
quote:
They were so mad Trump was fricking with their money laundering operation.
Before Ron entered the race, almost every single person on here agreed with this statement.
I still agree with that statement?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:38 pm to GumboPot
quote:Would you call this a success? How'd that plan work out?
In other words, carry a big fricking gun with a big wallet and real intent and no one will frick with you.
Are we now the world police? Why are we sending US tax payers dollars and Americans military weapons to a country on Russias border that has no alliance with us?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:39 pm to Solo Cam
quote:
How'd that work out?
Worked out great with Trump as President.
I can't help it or it's not Trump's fault Biden is a weak CiC.
quote:
Why was he sending weapons to a non-nato member on Russia's border?
To deter Russia.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:39 pm to Solo Cam
My understanding is that Trump wanted to make sure the money was all going to defend itself and not to corrupt oligarts and Ukrainian politicians as before. The money and the deal had already been approved, Trump had held back one of the payments because he wanted to see who won the election first. Once the right guy had won, trump pretty much had to go along, he just wanted assurances of where the money was going to spent on.
Ukraine has been known for years as one of the leading corruption countries in the entire world. Trump had been pushing back on all expenses at the time. he even renegotiated the price for his new Air Force 1 plane. Most wouldve just said, "we're getting a new plane, awesome", but not Trump, the President of the people. Trump wanted a much better price for the plane.
He also pushed back on Nato to pay their fair share.... And was renogotiating NAFTA... and many other ridiculous Washington ignorance and corruption.
The issue with that phone call, Zselensky did have Trump's back btw, was that the globalists didnt want the new President of Ukraine looking into the Biden's. Which is all over the news now. Trump again was right on the money. Its almost Nastradamus like with trump, every month we see he was dead on, the entire time. The US media, along with house and the senate just kept lying about everything Trump was doing or just not covering his successes at all. Tyranny my friends is what this is called everywhere else.
Once Trump told Zelensky, that he didnt mind giving them the money as long as it went where it was supposed to go. He told Zelensky on the call, You ran for President telling everyone you were going to cut down on the corruption, why dont you start with the Bidens and a Ukrainian oil Company called Burisma. The globalists and the US Democrats did not want that. They had just convinced the FBI, THE DOJ and the Cia to bury the Clinton Crimes. They couldnt have Biden now exposed, because he was most likely going to run for US President. So they did what any Dictatorship country would do and
impeached Trump over a phone call that at least 15 people were on and no one thought anything was not appropriate. Even Zelensky himself and all the Ukrainins that were on the call were cool with the call. It made sense, We will give u the money but we want assurances that this tax payers money was all going to where it was supposed to go.
But the Democrats didnt care that Zelensky himself didnt feel bribed and the call was clearly an appropriate call.
They had to stop Trump period any way any how. See the 2020 election and Covid.
The reason for the call from Trump to Zelensky in the first place was simply to congratulate Zelensky on the victory and to discuss the money. As they were speaking the Ukrainian corruption came up and Trump mentioned why dont u start with the Biden's. Obviously something was up with Burisma giving Hunter 83k a month to sit on their board, Hunter Biden had zero experience in the oil and gas industry. Any1 with a brain should know they werent paying Hunter for his expertise but for pay to play and other influences which is now all over the news. Go figure.
And as a side note Joe Biden had no issue with a Fossil fuel company paying Hunter millions of dollars,but now is doing everything he can to put the oil and gas industry out of business. Hypocrite anyone?
Ukraine has been known for years as one of the leading corruption countries in the entire world. Trump had been pushing back on all expenses at the time. he even renegotiated the price for his new Air Force 1 plane. Most wouldve just said, "we're getting a new plane, awesome", but not Trump, the President of the people. Trump wanted a much better price for the plane.
He also pushed back on Nato to pay their fair share.... And was renogotiating NAFTA... and many other ridiculous Washington ignorance and corruption.
The issue with that phone call, Zselensky did have Trump's back btw, was that the globalists didnt want the new President of Ukraine looking into the Biden's. Which is all over the news now. Trump again was right on the money. Its almost Nastradamus like with trump, every month we see he was dead on, the entire time. The US media, along with house and the senate just kept lying about everything Trump was doing or just not covering his successes at all. Tyranny my friends is what this is called everywhere else.
Once Trump told Zelensky, that he didnt mind giving them the money as long as it went where it was supposed to go. He told Zelensky on the call, You ran for President telling everyone you were going to cut down on the corruption, why dont you start with the Bidens and a Ukrainian oil Company called Burisma. The globalists and the US Democrats did not want that. They had just convinced the FBI, THE DOJ and the Cia to bury the Clinton Crimes. They couldnt have Biden now exposed, because he was most likely going to run for US President. So they did what any Dictatorship country would do and
impeached Trump over a phone call that at least 15 people were on and no one thought anything was not appropriate. Even Zelensky himself and all the Ukrainins that were on the call were cool with the call. It made sense, We will give u the money but we want assurances that this tax payers money was all going to where it was supposed to go.
But the Democrats didnt care that Zelensky himself didnt feel bribed and the call was clearly an appropriate call.
They had to stop Trump period any way any how. See the 2020 election and Covid.
The reason for the call from Trump to Zelensky in the first place was simply to congratulate Zelensky on the victory and to discuss the money. As they were speaking the Ukrainian corruption came up and Trump mentioned why dont u start with the Biden's. Obviously something was up with Burisma giving Hunter 83k a month to sit on their board, Hunter Biden had zero experience in the oil and gas industry. Any1 with a brain should know they werent paying Hunter for his expertise but for pay to play and other influences which is now all over the news. Go figure.
And as a side note Joe Biden had no issue with a Fossil fuel company paying Hunter millions of dollars,but now is doing everything he can to put the oil and gas industry out of business. Hypocrite anyone?
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:40 pm to GumboPot
quote:So you agree with Obamas policy on it as well?
Worked out great with Trump as President.
I can't help it or it's not Trump's fault Biden is a weak CiC.
quote:Deter Russia from what?
To deter Russia.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:41 pm to Solo Cam
quote:
Wait, so now it's good to send resources to Ukraine?
Sending money now is basically saying we are at war with Russia.
Remember the war wasn't happening until a year ago (according to Ukraine supporters) so arms sent there were to help prevent war.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:42 pm to Solo Cam
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How'd that plan work out?
Ronald Reagan implemented Peace Through Strength. Donald Trump copied it. If no wars (minus a couple of minor conflicts in each admin, Falkland's and Syria) is the metric both worked out well.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:43 pm to LosTigres251
quote:You don't think Trump ever made a mistake?
Its almost Nastradamus like with trump, every month we see he was dead on, the entire time
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:45 pm to GumboPot
quote:So it was a good thing that Trump armed Ukraine on Russias border who wasn't apart of NATO?
Ronald Reagan implemented Peace Through Strength. Donald Trump copied it. If no wars (minus a couple of minor conflicts in each admin, Falkland's and Syria) is the metric both worked out well.
You're happy with that decision?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:45 pm to LosTigres251
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Which is all over the news now. Trump again was right on the money. Its almost Nastradamus like with trump,
We had over a thousand page thread on this board starting in 2017 that predicted all that we are witnessing concerning Biden corruption. It was deleted.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:47 pm to lsufan31
quote:So the executive branch has no operating power on how we allocate funds and weapons?
He released it because it had already been voted on and appropriated by Congress. You know, the way the constitution guarantees our government operates?
So none of the current issues are Bidens fault?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:49 pm to Solo Cam
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So it was a good thing that Trump armed Ukraine on Russias border who wasn't apart of NATO?
I'm not happy or sad. It's just what it is. That money was appropriated in congressional spending and I'm sure the people at the end of the gravy train probably were expecting the money to flow has it normally had in the past through the executive branch.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:51 pm to Solo Cam
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You don't think Trump ever made a mistake?
WOW! That's what you resort to..
Yes Trump has.
That's nothing to do with this topic. That's an attempt to change directions.
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