re: Cam/Saints eyeing extension that would have him retiring a Saint

Nah.

You can 100% argue drew was the best Qb in 2009. The only thing not supporting it is tramteam record (14 vs 13).

Every (or near every) metric and advanced metric put Brees > manning.

2011 is the year people want to talk about. But Rodgers was legit insane that year.

Drew routinely put up all time numbers in multiple years, where other qbs have won MVP with less.

That's why I said cam is like frank gore. Dude is just sturdy and keeps producing a steady pace. Has a few elite years (like '17 and '19), but overall he's just a top 5-10DE for a decade while guys were top 3 for a handful and fell off the face of the earth.