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re: I don't understand the love for Roth IRAs
Posted on 3/26/23 at 9:08 pm to Niner
Posted on 3/26/23 at 9:08 pm to Niner
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Consider, too, a taxpayer in the 32% bracket now then 12% in retirement.
Bruh, you saying you can name one couple making $30k a month now that’s gonna be cool living on 6k a month in retirement?
Let’s say they spend 7k a month… that’s 22% and only a 10% spread. Which, by the way, would have been 25% just a few years ago… so let’s call it a 7% spread. See where I’m going with this yet? Now add the 50T in debt in the proposed budget from like a week ago.
All good I guess.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 5:35 am to UpstairsComputer
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Bruh, you saying you can name one couple making $30k a month now that’s gonna be cool living on 6k a month in retirement?
Never said that. You're making a lot of assumptions you don't realize here.
Just because someone is in a certain bracket does not in any way mean they are spending every dollar they bring home.
Also, if someone is living on $30k/month while working, some of those expenses will go away (or more importantly COULD go away if they need to cut expenses) in retirement (college savings, retirement savings, non-retirement savings, mortgage hopefully, etc.).
Lastly, once they retire, they should have built up a chunk of non-retirement assets to pull from before being required to take RMDs. Non-retirement assets can be invested very tax-efficiently and don't generate any ordinary income when distributed for living needs. You just need to be careful of interest, dividends, and cap gains on sales.
Once RMDs start, their tax bracket may go back up slightly, but in most cases not anywhere close to what they were in their earning years.
NOTE: These circumstances vary greatly depending on what assets the investor is living on - rental income from 4 different properties, for example, would complicate/negate the situation described above.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:49 am to UpstairsComputer
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Bruh, you saying you can name one couple making $30k a month now that’s gonna be cool living on 6k a month in retirement? Let’s say they spend 7k a month… that’s 22% and only a 10% spread. Which, by the way, would have been 25% just a few years ago… so let’s call it a 7% spread. See where I’m going with this yet? Now add the 50T in debt in the proposed budget from like a week ago. All good I guess.
Sigh.
IRA/401k savings are at the highest margins rate. The distributions in retirement often span brackets and carry a much lower effective rate. It’s not as simple as staring at a marginal rate chart.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 6:50 am
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