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Those who have filed and gambled on sports in 2022, what did you show?

Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:45 pm
Some articles are saying if you won less than $600.00, don’t bother. Others are saying that you need to report absolutely everything.

I know that each site sends a form to the IRS with your information, but 5/6 apps aren’t even allowing me to print a tax document because I didn’t win enough / win a low odds bet of +300

I’ve won north of $3,000 in the calendar year, but it’s mostly spread across 2 apps
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Others are saying that you need to report absolutely everything.


Lol no

Obviously if you are having to sign paper for wins then report it. If it's bits and pieces over time I wouldn't worry
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Lol no


So, what do I need to report?
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:03 pm to
If you signed at the casino, report it
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:21 pm to
No casino

All online sports betting apps
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:24 pm to
If you get a 1099g file



If you have winnings need to go to horse track pick up some losers off the ground

This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:25 pm to
anything over 600 you are supposed to report. yes the online sportsbooks have to give you a 1099

LINK.

you will not have to worry about a W2G unless you hit a wager 300 times your original bet. then they will withhold 24% for taxes. you do not want this.

best to grind and stack up wins and money and fill out W9 with sportsbook and you will get a 1099 at year end and pay your taxes on the winnings after giving info to your CPA.

i will be getting 1099's from 2 sportsbooks this year.





This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:31 pm to
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So, what do I need to report?




read my post and link above
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:32 pm to
5/6 haven’t given me 1099

shite, on some I can’t even categorize my transactions outside of 365 days.. and the majority of my winnings are in January of 2022. How am I supposed to tally up everything if I can’t even search it?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:37 pm to
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5/6 haven’t given me 1099



you need to get with them. WHo in the hell are you using? in-country? or offshore? offshore won't report shite for obvious reasons. that is how we got away with it for years before it was legalized here.

my sportsbooks had a W9 waiting for me ahead of time so i could fill out so they could send 1099's.

with all this shite legal now pay your taxes. you should have a history of all wagers. if you do not pay eventually they will bust you. They won't forget to report what you won.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:46 pm to
they may not be reporting because

1) you won less than 600 at all sportsbooks?

therefore they won't send you a 1099.

but being that you went over 600 cumulatively i would let my CPA know and have them advise. my guess is pay the taxes therefore you have proof documented in your tax filing should the IRS ask later. CYA.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:12 pm to
Draft Kings
FanDuel
MGM
Caesars
BetRivers
WynnBET
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38891 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:13 pm to
I won $1,500 just from Caesars and they haven’t sent me a tax document. They are also not allowing me to download one from their app

From Caesars

Tax Reported Prizes
Certain wins require a special claim process to satisfy tax requirements.
Certain wins, including any single wager paying 300 times the amount wagered and at least $600, require a special claim process to satisfy tax requirements.
You will be notified whenever you have a win that requires you to complete the claim process. Additionally, you will have to enter the first five digits of your Social Security Number as a part of the claim process.
Wins that require you to complete the claim process do not appear in your account balance, but those wins can be found within My Account > History > Tax Reported Prizes.
After the claim process is completed, your balance is credited with the eligible funds and you can withdraw your funds immediately.
Please visit the General Terms of Service Page for more information.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:47 pm to
Over 600 profit is meaningless unless it’s 300x the original wager or meets those specific requirements. You can request a profit and loss statement from the Sportsbook and report it under other income. You will not get an official tax document. Will you likely get audited or penalized if you don’t? Highly unlikely but technically you are supposed to report it.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:51 pm to
I did in 2021 through all reputable legal sites in Tennessee and not a single book sent me a tax form, was profitable in the thousands on some, lost on others, didn’t get a single form and you won’t either.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46136 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 9:16 pm to
What books are you using that are giving you 1099s? If Draftkings, Caesars etc aren’t bothering to do it, then who is?

The laws on this are completely ambiguous and every article you read has a different opinion.

Some state that every winning wager is income and every lost bet is gambling losses. So if you are a high volume bettor you would claim 103k in income and 100k in gambling losses etc. You end up paying way more in taxes than your net profit if you typically do the standard deduction and it would make absolutely no sense to gamble like this. Yet some people are insistent this is how you report it.

The most sensible thing to do is to report your profit as other income but again the law technically doesn’t allow it.

Tax law is dumb as hell. Just use common sense.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:13 pm to
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Some state that every winning wager is income and every lost bet is gambling losses. So if you are a high volume bettor you would claim 103k in income and 100k in gambling losses etc. You end up paying way more in taxes than your net profit if you typically do the standard deduction and it would make absolutely no sense to gamble like this. Yet some people are insistent this is how you report it.


I'm fighting my CPA right now on this. To make the numbers simple, I grossed about $30,000 in one score. The casino charged me taxes on the whole $30,000 not taking into account my wager amount. Nor the 10% action on my bet I sold a buddy and paid him out on. Lost back a reasonable amount over the year. Kept excellent records. Apparently the losses don't offset unless they exceed the amount won. And I owe taxes on the gross amount regardless. WTF?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:28 pm to
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Apparently the losses don't offset unless they exceed the amount won.


Sounds wrong maybe you aren't itemizing

quote:

Gambling Losses

You may deduct gambling losses only if you itemize your deductions on Schedule A (Form 1040) and kept a record of your winnings and losses. The amount of losses you deduct can't be more than the amount of gambling income you reported on your return. Claim your gambling losses up to the amount of winnings, as "Other Itemized Deductions."




IRS Topical 419

Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:32 pm to
The losses didn't exceed the standard deduction. And I don't have enough to itemize to make the total surpass the standard deduction threshold.

I've read the pub. It's stupid.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 10:32 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42037 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:37 pm to
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I've read the pub. It's stupid.


No argument there
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