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re: UM, Don't look now but somehow, AOC is getting this Police thing 100% correct right now.

Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:17 am to
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5481 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:17 am to
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Qualified immunity



I've seen numerous police kicked from the force or thrown in jail for their behavior, including three in Minnesota. Let's say, however, you did - as many leftists want - open up every police action to civil suit. Do you really thing you would have any ability to enforce the law whatsoever? If so, please enlighten me.

Either we have guns in the street constantly defending or exacting revenge or we have some body of organized law enforcement. I prefer to keep that body as close to the community rather than central government as possible, because there's at least some lever of local control. Also, you give zero credit to those who are doing their jobs right. If they were ALL or even MOSTLY bad, there would be bodies piling up in the bad parts of town every weekend... and the metros would be safer for it, sadly.
Posted by High Desert
Member since Jan 2023
265 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:20 am to
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I've seen numerous police kicked from the force or thrown in jail for their behavior, including three in Minnesota. Let's say, however, you did - as many leftists want - open up every police action to civil suit. Do you really thing you would have any ability to enforce the law whatsoever? If so, please enlighten me.

The problem with QI is that it is so absurdly complete. I can't speak for others, but when I say end QI, I'm referring to the retarded idea that is current doctrine that says basically, the cop has to do something wrong that EXACTLY TO A "T" fits some prior act that courts have ruled on.

It's fricking crazy.

I don't think they should always be open to lawsuits but frankly, I also don't think they should basically NEVER be subject to them either.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
23164 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:21 am to
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open up every police action to civil suit. Do you really thing you would have any ability to enforce the law whatsoever? If so, please enlighten me.


Yeah, I don't know what the answer is to QI. It needs tweaking but dispensing with it altogether is unworkable, especially in our tort system. Maybe if we were more like Germany it could work, but not here.
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