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re: New Orleans is a war zone, will the city ever have its own Rudy Giuliani?

Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:01 am to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15090 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:01 am to
It's a bit more complicated that "blaming the voter".

And it's not just black "culture", it's also the whole attitude of live and laugh and let the good times roll.

Everyone remembers Guilliani. Fewer remember his head cop was Bill Bratton who did the leg work. And HIS deputy was named Jack Maple - who did the super tough stuff. He's a cop legend.

And where did he work after NY? New Orleans.

And he wrote a book about it (among all his other jobs).

LINK

He pretty much says that the "broken windows" theory of policing doesn't exactly work when you encourage people to openly drink on the streets (in NY you got fined for that under Maple) and have Mardi Gras things. If you had Mardi Gras in New York under Guilliani everyone would have been in jail for public intoxication and lewd behavior and public urination and stuff like that.

Anyway, it interested buy his book or get it at the librry.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10155 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 5:09 am to
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It's a bit more complicated that "blaming the voter".

And it's not just black "culture", it's also the whole attitude of live and laugh and let the good times roll.


It's not complicated at all.

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policing doesn't exactly work when you encourage people to openly drink on the streets

Yeah...it's all the tourist on Bourbon Street doing the car break ins, car jacking and murders.

Posted by Clashmore Mike
Member since Oct 2014
790 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 6:00 am to
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If you had Mardi Gras in New York under Guilliani everyone would have been in jail for public intoxication and lewd behavior and public urination and stuff like that.


In New York, they have their own version of Mardi Gras. It’s called St. Patrick’s Day parades, Puerto Rico Day parades, Gay Pride parades, etc. etc. There is a ton of public intoxication in NYC.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34306 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:46 am to
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It's a bit more complicated that "blaming the voter".



Agreed. This is a problem that New Orleans has always had. That being said, the voters are not educated enough, nor willing, to vote for actual change. The race barrier is a big one to breach
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