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re: Oregon Gov. Kate Brown commutes sentences of all death row inmates

Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:32 pm to
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It's probably all the wrong assumptions you allow yourself to make

I mean... Didn't are discussion start with you assuming my stance?! I am a huge proponent of limited government. My qualm with this decision is that this commuting of the sentences was well received by the same circle that protested and threatened lives just a few months ago when Roe v Wade was ruled unconstitutional. So apologies if I took your stance for abortion to being morally ok with it. I honestly find it to be the most morally ambiguous topic currently being discussed. I do not think the government should force a woman to carry a child. At the same time I do believe that life begins at the embryonic stage (as do +99% of scientists).

Also apologies that quoting me apparently had posters thinking you advocated for killing babies.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:18 pm to
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Didn't are discussion start with you assuming my stance?!

No.

Here is my first post ITT, responding to the OP:
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Good.

I hate to see the government taking citizens lives.

This was your response to my post:
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I wonder if there will be a push to retry these cases now like there was in 2006 when Oregon changed their Death Penalty laws? I think they cut that short and closed that loophole after one of the guys still on their death row killed two young girls in separate incidents while he was being retried.

You can see what these inmates did to get on death row. Even see transcripts where the majority of the 17 confessed and even reveled in it. You're probably right though, the government should allow terminating the lives of babies if they are inconvenient, but keep alive the guy who raped and killed a 3 year old. Also the five guys who committed varying murders and assaults on kids from 8-15, they obviously deserve the state paying six figures annually to keep them alive. Priorities! Death to unwanted babies, keep alive the guy who killed a teenage couple and raped and sodomized them.

The US prison system needs to be overhauled and corrected... absolutely. The most heinous and violent members of society need to be removed from society and resources that could better society by rehabbing those that can, and lifting up those in need do not need to be wasted on them... absolutely. There are finite resources allotted to society. We cannot afford to contribute to keeping alive someone who raped and murdered children while we continue to fail children who have to rely on charity and school to be warm and eat because the EBT ran out due to improper funding, or frivolous spending, and dad is serving for strike three on possession. Spend the money on the next generation, not on those who have already cost taxpayers millions, and will only cost us more.

I suspect that you may have thought you were responding to someone else.
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My qualm with this decision is that this commuting of the sentences was well received by the same circle that protested and threatened lives just a few months ago when Roe v Wade was ruled unconstitutional.

Yes, hypocrites exist. Not much you can do about it. I try not to let that influence what I'm willing to accept from the government.
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Also apologies that quoting me apparently had posters thinking you advocated for killing babies.

Meh, I've done time on the Poli board. This place is downright civilized comparatively.
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