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re: Standardized Tests (ACT,SAT) were supposed to be equalizers

Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:52 am to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:52 am to
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Isn't this valuable? Knowing the material is a first order skill. Developing sound strategy for maximizing that knowledge through context, deduction, and instruction comprehension is a second order skill.


It’s very valuable but we are discussing the tests being equalizers. That’s not the case when higher income kids take prep courses to teach the test strategy while lower income students can’t pay for the same.

I’m nit arguing for or against the tests, in general. I’m just pointing out how they can not be the equalizers they were planned to be.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63231 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:59 am to
I steer away from conflating the preparatory efforts of individuals with the equalizing nature of the tests themselves. Blaming the tests instead of the availability of prep resources is how you get to a place where you're lowering standards or curving based on arbitrary social factors, rather than targeting the root cause and remediating the resource gap.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423794 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:27 pm to
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That’s not the case when higher income kids take prep courses to teach the test strategy while lower income students can’t pay for the same.

a. Life's not fair

b. If you truly are intelligent, the courses will only help you marginally.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
897 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 4:19 pm to
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while lower income students can’t pay for the same.


Complete bullshite… “lower income” students have waaaay more FREE resources to help, tutoring, and technology than other students.
The problem in your statement is that your “lower income” students don’t take advantage of it when they could. Nah, they sign up for classes, wait until refund checks go out and then bail. Rinse and fricking repeat…
As a college professor, ask me how I know this. I see it day in and day out.
This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 4:26 pm
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