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How good would JR be anywhere besides Oakland?

Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:19 pm
Posted by bballingenyus23
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:19 pm
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:19 pm to
83.4 rating
Posted by Dr Lou
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:20 pm to
If he played in Atlanta, he wouldn't be as good as Ryan.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:20 pm to
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83.4 rating


You love math
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:20 pm to
im not sure how much better he would be right now, but his future would be a whole lot brighter

there is an article in the sporting news by john elway about JR in oakland, good read
Posted by bballingenyus23
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:21 pm to
That's some fast calculations
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:21 pm to
I made a thread about this the other day....

You need to make you the new fad shirt. I <3 stats
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:22 pm to
Put him on a team like the Patriots or Cowboys or another team with a better Defense and offensive line then I think he'd do a lot better.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:23 pm to
put him on a team with an Oline and some decent wr's and you'd see something. His best reciever is Zach fricking Miller.
Posted by foreverLSU
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:23 pm to
If he's under good management, good coaching, and a good o line to give him time to throw w/ a legit receiver or two, I bet he'd be pretty good. So basically the opposite of his current situation and he'd be a promising NFL QB.
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 11/2/08 at 10:25 pm to
He would still suck, IMO.
Posted by ILikeFootball
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 8:32 am to
he had ten yards passing yesterday
Posted by The Cable Guy
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:14 am to
I would say no better than he is now. At best marginally better. His draft class was not the year of the QB, that's for sure.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:25 am to
Can you think of any other team, he'd be starting on? Detroit, maybe?
Posted by LSUtigahs28
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:27 am to
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If he played in Atlanta, he wouldn't be as good as Ryan.



I've said this before, but if you put him in ATL he does better than Ryan. He has done almost as much as Ryan without nearly as much around him.

Lets go through the stats.

JR's completion % is 6% lower than Ryan. If you have watched JR you've seen 3-5 dropped passes per game. If this was adjusted down to a normal team his completion % would be as good if not higher than Ryan's.

JR has thrown fewer picks than Ryan anyway.

Ryan has thrown one more TD. Go back to the drops thing. I have seen 2 or 3 basically sure TDs dropped by JR's WRs. If those aren't dropped JR has more TDs than Ryan.

Keep in mind this isn't even mentioning the fact that Ryan has a much better running game.(JR lead Oakland in rushing yards this week with 2 carries.) Ryan also gets much better pass protection.
Posted by The Cable Guy
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:29 am to

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JR's completion % is 6% lower than Ryan. If you have watched JR you've seen 3-5 dropped passes per game. If this was adjusted down to a normal team his completion % would be as good if not higher than Ryan's.


I was at the Saints - Raiders game and he overthrew multiple recievers. One was a wide open touchdown. It would take a lot for me to believe he'd be better than Ryan.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:29 am to
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Can you think of any other team, he'd be starting on? Detroit, maybe?

DET, Tenn, Minn, KC, St. Louis.

Considering injuries Dal, Cinci, Chicago
Posted by LSUtigahs28
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:34 am to
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I was at the Saints - Raiders game and he overthrew multiple recievers. One was a wide open touchdown. It would take a lot for me to believe he'd be better than Ryan.



and Ryan hasn't missed receivers? 6% difference....
Posted by The Cable Guy
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 11:14 am to
Matt Ryan = 24
Jamarcus Russel = 0

Ryan>Russell

No argument. Not debateable.
Posted by Proejo
Dallas
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 11:14 am to
I bet T.O. would prefer JR to that douche Brad Johnson.
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