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re: T or F - Jayden gives LSU better chance to win first few games until OL gels?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:17 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:17 am to mmcgrath
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If he is still working on footwork and accuracy. If the OL isn't working the running doesn't help much since he hasn't shown escapability, mostly designed runs.
Early in the season seems to be the best time to pick secondaries apart. Would rather attack with our wide receivers.
Are the constant fears about Daniels' accuracy all based on the spring game? The guy completed 65% of his passes last year after ASU had something like 6 WRs transfer out.
He's certainly good enough to start the year with, but some posters act like he's the second coming of Reggie Ball.
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:34 am to nvasil1
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Are the constant fears about Daniels' accuracy all based on the spring game? The guy completed 65% of his passes last year after ASU had something like 6 WRs transfer out.
So I think Daniels should start (and is going to be really good), but I think when people talk about concerns with his accuracy throwing the football (and I'm talking about people who say it in good faith, not people who are making up nonsense reasons to be against Daniels), it's meant in the most literal sense of "ability to consistently throw the ball directly where he intends to", not something that can necessarily be captured in completion percentage.
If you look at his interceptions last year, several of them were not instances of trying to thread the ball into a tight location beyond his ability as a QB; instead, they came from the ball being not particularly close to the place where he should have been aiming. As in, the defensive back who made the interception was not doing a particularly good job of playing defense on the play, the ball was just thrown to a spot that was much closer to him than to the intended receiver. And these were on throws that JD is certainly physically capable of making.
It didn't happen that often, and since it seems to not be a physical limitation hopefully it's something correctable, but it is not a completely made-up concern.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:55 am to nvasil1
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Are the constant fears about Daniels' accuracy all based on the spring game?
In short, yes. That is the first time the overwhelming majority of LSU fans watched him play. So that is their only impression.
Was he great, overall, last year at ASU? No. But if you view completion % is the best indicator of "accuracy"...then Daniels was in the top 1/4th of all QBs. He ranked 27th nationally in that category and No.1 in the Pac-12 (though it would have put him #7 in the SEC).
To put that ranking in a little bit of perspective, Daniels completion % was appx. two points lower than Kenny Pickett's and one point lower than Bryce Young's (though each attempted many more passes than Daniels). Daniels' completion % was better than Caleb Williams and Stetson Bennett. It was FIVE points higher than Max Johnson's. It was 7 points higher than Joe Burrow in 2018.
I think it is realistic to hope Daniels could have a Hendon Hooker (Tennessee) type of season in terms of production. Hooker threw for 2945 yards, 31 TDs, 3 INTs on 301 attempts last year. He also ran for 616 and another 5 TDs. Daniels had 710 yards rushing and 6 TDs.
The fact that Daniels had 10 INTs and only 10 TDs on nearly the same amount of attempts as Hooker is very concerning. But it is also relevant to acknowledge Hooker, in 3 seasons at VT, never really had numbers approaching what he did last year at Tennessee. That's to say coaching and system can make a HUGE difference. Thus, it is probably a bit unfair to presume Daniels is going to be bad AT LSU solely based upon what he did at ASU. Joe Burrow was a very average QB in 2018 with Steve Ensminger orchestrating the offense. In 2019, with Joe Brady directing the offensive approach that same player turned in one of the greatest seasons by a QB in CFB history.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:26 pm to nvasil1
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Are the constant fears about Daniels' accuracy all based on the spring game? The guy completed 65% of his passes last year after ASU had something like 6 WRs transfer out.
He's certainly good enough to start the year with, but some posters act like he's the second coming of Reggie Ball.
The Spring Game is all most of us have to go on, and it was a really bad showing.
What Daniels has going for himself is that he has good completion numbers in the 0-10 yard range. That may not sound like much, but the wheels really fall off an offense when those short passes go south like with Brandon Harris.
On the bad side of things is that his 65% completion last year was mostly to his running back who is an NFL caliber back with great hands. And that was in an offense that was 70-30 run to pass. I think our WR's are going to bolt if we go run heavy with Daniels taking a lot of those runs and most of our passes are dump offs.
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