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Another Liz Cheney post - What the sellout buys you...(Long)

Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:52 am
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9968 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:52 am
Just look at this article by the rag who promises ominously - 'Democracy dies in darkness'.

JACKSON, Wyo. — The two-minute video, meant ostensibly as the closing appeal to voters here, likely served much more as the launching point of a campaign that will last for years to come.

“No matter how long we must fight, this is a battle we will win,” Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) says to the camera, promising to lead “millions of Americans” of all ideological stripes “united in the cause of freedom.”

“This is our great task and we will prevail. I hope you will join me in this fight,” Cheney concludes.

Cheney is looking far beyond Tuesday’s Republican primary for this state’s at-large seat in the U.S. House, a race that she is likely to lose, barring an unprecedented surge of non-Republican voters into the GOP contest.

She entered Congress six years ago as a relative celebrity, the daughter of the former vice president who spent several years using Fox News appearances to deliver acid-tongued critiques of the Obama-Biden administration. And she will exit the Capitol, likely in 4½ months, as the face of an anti-Trump movement that has cost her old alliances but left her with new supporters, clamoring for a next act more nationally focused.

“I sure hope she runs for president,” Jim Rooks, elected to Jackson’s town council as a self-proclaimed “fierce independent,” said while sitting in a coffee shop looking up at Snow King Mountain.

Cheney has fielded questions about her ambitions since first taking office, but the intensity ramped up after this summer’s blockbuster hearings, in which she has served as vice chairwoman of the committee investigating the ex-president’s role in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the Untied States Capitol.

“I’ll make a decision on 2024 down the road,” she told CNN in late July.

But Cheney is clear-eyed when it comes to her chances of actually winning the presidential nomination in a party that is still so loyal to former president Donald Trump, according to friends and advisers. She sees her future role similar to how she views the work of the Jan. 6 committee: Blocking any path for Trump back to the Oval Office.

“It’s about the danger that he poses to the country, and that he can’t be anywhere close to that power again,” she told a crowd of supporters in Cheyenne just before the committee hearings launched in early June.

Traditional conservatives opposed to Trump have already discussed the possibility of Cheney running for the White House. “That chatter was very strong even before that Dick Cheney commercial,” Dmitri Mehlhorn said, referring to a campaign ad that ran nationwide on Fox News and featured the former vice president denouncing Trump.

Mehlhorn advises several donors across the political spectrum who are opposed to Trump, including the billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman. Most are ready to provide critical financing for a Cheney bid.

In that regard, Cheney will spend the months after the committee concludes its work later this year figuring out her next steps. That might be launching a political organization that focuses on Trump, or some think-tank work matched with media appearances.

But, for certain, Cheney and a small but influential bloc of anti-Trump Republicans have decided that there must be a 2024 candidate who will run as an unabashed opponent of both the ex-president and other contenders who spew his mistruths about the 2020 election.

This anti-Trump group fears a repeat of the 2016 campaign, in which rivals refrained from attacking Trump’s unorthodox behavior and positions until it was too late. The emerging 2024 Republican presidential field consists of the former president, his allies looking to emulate him and a collection of other Republicans courting non-Trump voters but without forcefully denouncing Trump.

Cheney and her crowd want a candidate who would serve merely as a political kamikaze, blowing up his or her candidacy but also taking down Trump.

“You need that. I think it’s got to be somebody that’s willing to take the boos, take the yells,” Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.), the only other Republican on the Jan. 6 committee, said in a recent interview. “Somebody [who] can stand on the stage and just tell people the truth, I think that would have a huge impact.”

Mehlhorn said his team of anti-Trump donors would take a Cheney campaign, designed solely to attack Trump, “seriously” enough that they could put at least $20 million behind it.

That way, he said, “Republican voters are reminded of how bad Trump is in a way that might allow someone else to emerge from the primary.”

The price of opposition

Cheney has been very outspoken in her denunciations of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and other Republicans who have remained loyal to Trump despite his help precipitating the Capitol attack.

But she has also been upset with a separate group of Republicans who despise Trump but instead hope the ex-president will just fade away, particularly Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

“Where Kevin is like full-on public embrace, McConnell is: Ignore and hope he goes away. And that just doesn’t work,” Cheney told the authors of “This Will Not Pass,” a book about the fallout of the 2020 election.

But Cheney’s singular focus on preventing Trump from being reelected has come at a heavy cost. Her political world has turned upside down.

(continued in next post)

This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9968 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:52 am to
Over the weekend, McCarthy began hosting his annual big-donor fete in Teton Village, less than 15 miles north of Cheney’s polling place. It’s the same spot where Cheney and her father co-hosted a $1 million fundraiser on behalf of Trump in August 2019, but the resort owner has since denounced Cheney and is supporting her challenger, the Trump-endorsed Harriet Hageman.

Instead of her traditional GOP support, Cheney is trying to rally tens of thousands of Democrats and independents across Wyoming to cross over into the Republican primary.

Anecdotally, local liberals are perplexed by their rush of support after decades of seeing the Cheney family as the political enemy.

“I can’t believe I’m thinking about this. This world is insane,” Diana Welch, an adviser to Christy Walton, a billionaire heir to the Walmart fortune, recalled thinking. But last Monday, Welch happily co-hosted an event in nearby Wilson where Democrats, including local elected officials, outnumbered Republicans.

Alli Noland, a local public relations executive, spent years as a Democrat but eventually gave up a few years ago because the GOP primaries were so critical in this deeply conservative state.

She now organizes regular meetups at the Stagecoach Bar just outside Jackson for liberals interested in learning how to support Cheney.

And there are people like Mike May, who told his friends Saturday evening how, since the early days of the Bush-Cheney administration, he owned a Volkswagen bus with a blunt bumper sticker: “Cheney is a creep.”

His more traditional truck now has a “Cheney for Wyoming” sticker on it. He said he attended the Monday event just to tell her “thank you” for standing up to Trump.

Democrats make the jump

According to state records, the shift is real.

On Jan. 1, Republicans had more than 196,000 registered voters, while Democrats had about 46,000. By Aug. 1, Republicans gained 11,000 new voters while Democrats lost 6,000 and those voters unaffiliated with either party dropped by 2,000.

eton County, traditionally the only liberal-leaning spot in Wyoming, now has more registered Republicans than Democrats, and voters can switch parties up until Tuesday’s primary.

The Teton County Clerk, Maureen Murphy, reported a stunning tilt in early voting toward Republicans: 3,259 votes have been cast in the GOP primaries by the end of Friday, and just 166 came in the Democratic contests.

Cheney supporters believe those numbers suggest a real surge in crossover voters. Rooks, the Jackson councilman, has spent the past weeks proselytizing to Democrats and independents to join him crossing into the GOP primary, with a good amount of success.

“I have two friends who just can’t do it,” Rooks said, recalling one who got into an early voting polling station and ran out without voting for Cheney.

Republican friends are a much tougher sell, he said. “I might as well be trying to tell them to denounce their faith.”

That scares Noland, who warns that the push to get non-Republicans into the primary has only driven traditional GOP voters away from Cheney. “It really fired up all the Republicans,” she said.

If Cheney loses the usual Wyoming Republicans by a 2-to-1 margin, as polls suggest, she would need something along the lines of 40,000 Democrats and independents to cross over — an insanely high figure in a state where just 115,000 voted in the last midterm GOP primary.

Even these crossover voters, like Patrice Kangas, have moved beyond Tuesday’s outcome and want to know what comes next. As she recounted at the Stagecoach, she waited in line quite awhile to meet Cheney after the Monday event ended and finally asked whether she would run for president.

“Go big?” Kangas said.

“Oh,” Cheney responded, “I don’t know yet.”
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9968 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:55 am to
There is a point to this long copy being posted.

This is the left paying a 'heros' tribute to Liz. Notice they even encourage cross-over votes from the Democratic party to support her.

My Speculation... She will replace Ms McCain as the 'Conservative' on the view within 24 months.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63194 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:01 am to
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“I sure hope she runs for president...”


I do, too. Her humiliation on a national scale will be grand!

quote:

this summer’s blockbuster hearings


If these hears have been a blockbuster, then "Ishtar" won an Academy Award.

quote:

Blocking any path for Trump back to the Oval Office.



So an obstructionist. How Washington of her.

quote:

Mehlhorn advises several donors across the political spectrum who are opposed to Trump, including the billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman. Most are ready to provide critical financing for a Cheney bid.


I thought billionaires buying offices for folks is a bad thing. Are these people really that self-unaware?
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18074 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:02 am to
This is the end of the swamp creature Cheney family’s political career. They did well. They got very rich and murdered lots of brown people while costing scores of America’s young men their lives.

That family is about as evil as one could possibly be.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127521 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:05 am to
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including the billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman.


Bilderbergs
CFR
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64415 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:07 am to
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Traditional conservatives opposed to Trump


Those are not conservatives.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
88054 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:17 am to
Why don’t the just vote for a democrat that will win?

This is what the left has shrunk themselves to? Voting for the Cheneys?

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17154 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:19 am to
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“I’ll make a decision on 2024 down the road,” she told CNN in late July.


She cannot believe she can… I mean it’s not possible she actually believes she has a shot at the executive branch.

She is down roughly 30 points in this midterm primary…. And she holds on to one singular thought she would win a national election.

I’ve seen narcissism in action.. but geez. That’s next level.
Posted by lanticguy
AK
Member since Nov 2014
444 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:20 am to
Never thought I would see tigerdroppings interested in wyoming politics or even remotely see my hometown being posted in this forum.
Posted by NoShow
Member since Feb 2013
2339 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:21 am to
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Campaign to last for years


As long as it will take to remove freedom and totally destroy America.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:21 am to
Trump got elected with 30% of the vote from Manhattan
The people that know him best
Vote for him least
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:23 am to
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But Cheney is clear-eyed when it comes to her chances of actually winning the presidential nomination in a party that is still so loyal to former president Donald Trump, according to friends and advisers. She sees her future role similar to how she views the work of the Jan. 6 committee: Blocking any path for Trump back to the Oval Office.

“It’s about the danger that he poses to the country, and that he can’t be anywhere close to that power again,” she told a crowd of supporters in Cheyenne just before the committee hearings launched in early June.


This is why anyone that is watching those hearings and can't see they are not about fact gathering might be functionally retarded. The group started with a premise and have sought to prove it.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17154 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:26 am to
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Trump got elected with 30% of the vote from Manhattan The people that know him best Vote for him least


What was the oh so intelligent, sophisticated, glamorous Manhattan vote for Biden? Who they didn’t know? And has been the poster child for weakness and failure?

After that… please inform the room why we should give one crumb of a damn what people in Manhattan think?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51375 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:33 am to
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“It’s about the danger that he poses to the country, and that he can’t be anywhere close to that power again,”
The "power" Trump possessed as president was to not create new wars, find peace, neutralize China's influence, and return power to states, while ridding the perma-gov of their cushy perks.

There's no existential threat to US citizens or our foreign friends. It's only to the elite in power.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:36 am to
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the ex-president and other contenders who spew his mistruths about the 2020 election.
The spewers of mistruth have always been the NEW YORK FCKG TIMES
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63194 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:42 am to
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There's no existential threat to US citizens or our foreign friends. It's only to the elite in power.



Exactly. Trump threatens the Cheney family fortune, not the American citizen's well being.
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