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You can’t be this ignorant. You’ve peppered this thread and others with all sorts of statistics you give no sources for, and the first study you actually provide a link to has as its foundation a belief that more than 17% of homicides are committed with guns purchased within 5 days (or one week) of the homicide?

I've given statistics and sources for every piece of data I've provided.

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more than 17% of homicides are committed with guns purchased within 5 days (or one week) of the homicide?

It's comparing people who purchased guns and then went on to kill after the waiting period or before the waiting period, so not all gun owners but recent gun purchasers.

It's a reduction in gun homicides from recent gun purchasers so it's not all gun homicides but of a subset of them.

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a belief that more than 17% of homicides are committed with guns purchased within 5 days (or one week) of the homicide?

No, it's that of guns purchased when there's a waiting period and when there's not a waiting period.

So the coefficient shows there's a 17% reduction in killings from guns purchased recently. It's not saying that of all gun homicides, it's saying there's a 17% reduction in homicides from recently purchased guns.

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Posted by David_DJS

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Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:50 am to DiscountedCashFlow

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So the coefficient shows there's a 17% reduction in killings from guns purchased recently. It's not saying that of all gun homicides, it's saying there's a 17% reduction in homicides from recently purchased guns.

Okay. I was responding to this -

“ A reduction of 17% is because the waiting period stops 17% of gun homicides from occurring.”

What you meant was “… stops 17% of homicides where the perpetrator uses a gun purchased within 5 days of the killing.”

So the obvious questions are -

1. How many murders are committed with guns purchased within 5 days of the killing? My guess is substantially less than 1%.

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2. How does the answer to #1 compare to how many people defend themselves with a recently purchased gun? My guess is it’s a lot more than the number of murders committed with recently purchased guns.

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I've given statistics and sources for every piece of data I've provided.

You posted that the murder rate for white non-Hispanic Americans is 4 times higher than the murder rate for France. I didn’t see your link or source - what is it?

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