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Orvis NOT bending a knee

Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:39 pm
Thanks to Dad


Orvis

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:47 pm to
Good on them. Similar to what Shceel's did on Memorial Day.

LINK

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:51 pm to
I have several fly reels and rods from them. They’ve always been a company focused on the outdoors and nothing else.

Crazy concept these days.
Posted by Bearcat90
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:53 pm to
They've donated a lot of money to "inclusivity" campaigns. It's right on their webpage.

Not saying that is bad, but it's surely WAF.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:57 pm to
It’s all centered around conservation efforts which I don’t have a problem with.
Posted by Bearcat90
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:00 pm to
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It’s all centered around conservation efforts which I don’t have a problem with.


If you say so. But the info on their page says otherwise.

https://www.orvis.com/impact-report.html
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:03 pm to
What specifically do you have a problem with? Because your link doesn’t say what you think it does.
Posted by Bearcat90
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:07 pm to
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What specifically do you have a problem with? Because your link doesn’t say what you think it does.


It does if you click on the individual + signs halfway down the page.

They are inclusive to every minority out there. Which to me is woke bullshite. If you want to help people flyfish, help ALL people. Same goes for their hiring practices. Hire the BEST candidates.

Read the content in that page. Then get back to me.
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:12 pm to
So them posting an ad for Father's Day, which is this month, is them not bending the knee? I'm not sure I follow
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:14 pm to
That's their CEO in a marketing ad to sell father's day gifts... it's neither woke nor non-woke.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:14 pm to
If you have a problem with blacks fly fishing then ok, but you’re misrepresenting their stated goals.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Bearcat90
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:20 pm to
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If you have a problem with blacks fly fishing then ok, but you’re misrepresenting their stated goals.


I don't specifically have an issue with that, but help ALL people not just one group. They also "help" women fly fish too. And go out of their way to hire those two groups specifically.

They're a bit woke in my opinion.

They can do whatever they want and it's no big deal to me either way, but let's not try to say this company is some sort of Unwoke Warrior.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:23 pm to
I didn’t say that. I said their goals are centered around conservation efforts and that’s correct. You’re acting like they’re donating to BLM and Pussy Hat inc
Posted by Bearcat90
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I didn’t say that. I said their goals are centered around conservation efforts and that’s correct. You’re acting like they’re donating to BLM and Pussy Hat inc


I disagree but I do see your point.

You can also click on their link of recent hirings and see what the last 6 hires look like. Almost all are women which, again, is OK but I doubt any of them were avid fly fishermen previously and were most likely hired specifically for their genders.

I'll just leave it as I don't believe they haven't already "bent a knee" in other areas.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:30 pm to
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fishermen


Fisher person, bigot.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:47 pm to
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2020 Angling for All Pledge Orvis is committed to making fly fishing and the outdoors more inclusive. Orvis’s vision is to inspire the world to love the adventure and wonder in nature. For us, an inspired world is one that is inclusive, equitable, and without barriers. One that is achieved by being vulnerable, acknowledging privilege, exploring blind spots, engaging in uncomfortable conversations, and effecting change. In the summer of 2020, Orvis became the first company to sign the Angling for All (AFA) Pledge. Created by Brown Folks Fishing, the pledge establishes a commitment and resource for the fishing industry to identify and eliminate barriers for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, creating a more inclusive and equitable sport and lasting change. “We are honored and grateful to have such a strong partnership with the team at Brown Folks Fishing,” says Orvis President Simon Perkins. “Their mission to build capacity, access, resources, visibility, and a solid community for anglers of color makes the sport stronger, and we are excited to sign the pledge as an acknowledgment of our commitment to this critical work. This is an opportunity for us to explore our own blind spots and unconscious biases and an important step forward in Orvis’s history of passion and commitment to access, inclusion, and stewardship in fly fishing.”


This is clearly them bending the knee at the height of the BLM movement for plausible cover from hate. It goes beyond “help blacks fish”.

I mean this is a wokester mad lib

quote:

achieved by being vulnerable, acknowledging privilege, exploring blind spots, engaging in uncomfortable conversations, and effecting change

This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Bearcat90
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

fishermen



Fisher person, bigot.


I fell for that one hook, line and sinker
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:54 pm to


Posted by KAGTASTIC
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:58 pm to
Father's Day and 1st national juneteenth falling on the same day
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:00 pm to
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acknowledging privilege


If this doesn't say this company is woke, I don't know what else does. They clearly have taken the knee.
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