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re: The Uvalde received school shooting training 2 months ago; here are the findings

Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:10 pm to
Not excusing Uvalde PD actions, but I'll be interested in seeing what the deal was with the barricaded door.

You are trained to go to gunshots...but patrol units usually do not have breaching tools so I could see how that could cause a problem initially with the first couple of officers that responded.

Breaching doors at schools can be difficult due to them being very sturdy and using metal door frames.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:16 pm to
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You are trained to go to gunshots...but patrol units usually do not have breaching tools so I could see how that could cause a problem initially with the first couple of officers that responded.



Such a situation would probably grant a degree of excuse for why they didn’t immediately breach the door when they arrived.

But there have since been photos of the Uvalde PD’s SWAT team, which would suggest that they had the tools, such as a battering ram, available at least somewhere in the vicinity. And those tools should have been on-site well before 60 minutes elapsed after the initial call went out of an active shooter.

Edit: Of course, with the degree to which this SWAT equipment is more about cosplaying than actual police work, who knows if they were even aware of what they had in their SWAT inventory?
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:29 pm to
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Breaching doors at schools can be difficult due to them being very sturdy and using metal door frames.


With a halligan tool and a sledge hammer, with a metal door and frame can be opened very quickly. I’ve done it myself.
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